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I'm still on my iPhone 6, and I am not going to get the 11 either, in fact I have been dabbling with LineageOS on a Xiaomi Pocophone F1 as a second travel phone

by fmajid 7y ago

I'm still on my iPhone 6, and I am not going to get the 11 either, in fact I have been dabbling with LineageOS on a Xiaomi Pocophone F1 as a second travel phone. What would make me "upgrade" (not sure if I can really call that an upgrade in the absence of a headphone port). Must-haves: 1. USB-C 2. 5G support using a single-chip like the Qualcomm Snapdragon X55 baseband chipset (not a separate 4g and 5G chip as with the X50) 3. No more stupid notch Nice to have: 4. Some sort of anti-slip ridges or grip milled into the casework 5. Getting TouchID back 6. No more stupid lens bump

altec3 7y ago
Anti slip would be amazing. Without a case my iPhone X slips on every surface, including my hands. The notch isn't so bad, I'll fullscreen videos and don't even notice it.
- chiph 7y ago
  I solved the too-slippery case on my Windows Phone by putting some clear skateboard tape on the back edges. I should do this on my XR...
  - selectodude 7y ago
    Sounds like a good way to sand a hole in your pants.
    - chiph 7y ago
      You would think so. :) But I wore slacks back then not jeans (office dress code) so there wasn't a lot of pressure on your pocket lining.
thekid314 7y ago
I was hoping their "One more thing" would be tracking tags with precise positioning and an AR viewer to see exactly where something is placed in the world.
- greeno 7y ago
  Don't you mean "One more camera"?!?
- chrischen 7y ago
  It should still be coming soon as code was found for it in the OS. It will display a red, IT (horror movie) style, floating red balloon where your lost item is.
- csa 7y ago
  Me, too. They might announce this later — I think that tracking AR tags will end up being huge.
windexh8er 7y ago
Its 2019 and Apple is still milking their largest subset of buyers on the Lightning tax. In my opinion Apple has some fantastic engineering still happening but the blatant disregard of USB-C shows the true motives. While I understand there are likely challenges with switching the iPhone Pro doesn't fit, at all, with the connectivity solutions in the MacBook Pro or iPad Pro line. Its really unfortunate a lot of what Apple showed today are derivatives of things Android manufacturers have been doing for years. Then again there's nothing to be upset about, the majority of this was public for quite a while. Keep in mind USB-C came to Android on the Nexus line in October of 2015.
- wvenable 7y ago
  The thing is a lot of Apple product owners have a lot of Lightning cables and chargers already. For them, they're not paying any sort of tax. Changing to USB-C would be a tax for these people as they'd have to buy all new cables. Yes, in a tech forum the majority of us have many USB-C devices. But I personally don't have that critical mass of USB-C devices compared with Lightning or microUSB.
  - _asummers 7y ago
    I'd buy this if Apple didn't start doing USB-C on their computers 3-4 years ago, If USB-C isn't where you want to go as Apple, fine, but be consistent across the product lines.
    - wvenable 7y ago
      You can't power a laptop from a Lightning cable. Lightning came out 7 years ago to replace the 30-pin connector. It makes sense for the laptops to replace their proprietary power ports with USB-C but they'd need a time machine to be consistent across product lines and not screw somebody over.
- lucisferre 7y ago
  Lightning tax? Have you tried finding charging options for USB-C after forgetting yours in an airport yet?
mirkules 7y ago
For me, the must haves are: 1. Headphone jack. Absolute MUST for any sort of music recording (lag, quality) and long distance running (battery life). 2. TouchID. My wife has FaceId and I hate it so much. Everything else I can live with or without. I’m still on my 6s+ for those reasons, and it’s sad. Nobody would NOT buy the latest iPhone if it had those things. But a non-zero population doesn’t buy it bc it lacks them. Just silly.
- epalm 7y ago
  iPhone 5 SE. Headphone jack: Check. TouchID: Check. No FaceID: Check. Actually fits in my hand and I can reach any part of the screen with my thumb: Check. I guess it's not a "fast" smartphone anymore but... it's definitely Fast Enough.
- mokus 7y ago
  Same phone here, for the same reasons. It still does everything I want, as quickly as I want. It’s actually a little mind boggling to me that they have nearly doubled the version number without adding anything at all that I find compelling.
- Lio 7y ago
  This is exactly the case for me too, I love my 6S+. My only problem is that the battery is starting to die. Now I would just replace the battery and stick with it but some years ago I dropped the phone and the screen shattered. You can't see the cracks in normal head on operation and there are no usage issues but I think it would mean that I'd have to have the screen replaced to replace the battery. At some point this is not economically good sense. I can easily afford an new iPhone every year but I want a headphone socket for use with Rosetta Stone. When I use my headphones wirelessly with it it switches to a headset profile (with an annoying beep) and the sound quality drop to that of a headset before it switch back to audio profile (with another annoying beep). Apple's solutions things like audio in the new iPhones seems half baked. Using a 3.5mm headphone lead with the same Bose QC35s everything works perfectly with clear sound at all times. Also FaceId won't work when sitting in the charging cubbyhole of my car, TouchId does.
  - 7y ago
Alex3917 7y ago
> I'm still on my iPhone 6, and I am not going to get the 11 either The cost of going from a 6 year upgrade cycle to a 5 year upgrade cycle is something like 12 cents per day. Even if you're not entirely happy with the current phones, at some point waiting to upgrade is a net negative if you actually cost it out and compare it rationally to your utility curve.
tannhaeuser 7y ago
> USB-C Careful what you whish for. I can totally understand the desire for uniform and interchangable power adaptors and ports, but USB-C on my S8 wore off within half a year, to the point that to "take" and speed-load, I had to ram it into the plug several times in succession, greatly contributing to wear.
- csa 7y ago
  Check if there was lint in the receiving area. This will cause chargers not to take.
  - tannhaeuser 7y ago
    I did, and had it even blown out, to no avail.

by fmajid 7y ago

altec3 7y ago

Anti slip would be amazing. Without a case my iPhone X slips on every surface, including my hands. The notch isn't so bad, I'll fullscreen videos and don't even notice it.

chiph 7y ago
I solved the too-slippery case on my Windows Phone by putting some clear skateboard tape on the back edges. I should do this on my XR...
- selectodude 7y ago
  Sounds like a good way to sand a hole in your pants.
  - chiph 7y ago
    You would think so. :) But I wore slacks back then not jeans (office dress code) so there wasn't a lot of pressure on your pocket lining.

thekid314 7y ago

I was hoping their "One more thing" would be tracking tags with precise positioning and an AR viewer to see exactly where something is placed in the world.

greeno 7y ago
Don't you mean "One more camera"?!?
chrischen 7y ago
It should still be coming soon as code was found for it in the OS. It will display a red, IT (horror movie) style, floating red balloon where your lost item is.
csa 7y ago
Me, too. They might announce this later — I think that tracking AR tags will end up being huge.

windexh8er 7y ago

Its 2019 and Apple is still milking their largest subset of buyers on the Lightning tax. In my opinion Apple has some fantastic engineering still happening but the blatant disregard of USB-C shows the true motives. While I understand there are likely challenges with switching the iPhone Pro doesn't fit, at all, with the connectivity solutions in the MacBook Pro or iPad Pro line. Its really unfortunate a lot of what Apple showed today are derivatives of things Android manufacturers have been doing for years. Then again there's nothing to be upset about, the majority of this was public for quite a while. Keep in mind USB-C came to Android on the Nexus line in October of 2015.

wvenable 7y ago
The thing is a lot of Apple product owners have a lot of Lightning cables and chargers already. For them, they're not paying any sort of tax. Changing to USB-C would be a tax for these people as they'd have to buy all new cables. Yes, in a tech forum the majority of us have many USB-C devices. But I personally don't have that critical mass of USB-C devices compared with Lightning or microUSB.
- _asummers 7y ago
  I'd buy this if Apple didn't start doing USB-C on their computers 3-4 years ago, If USB-C isn't where you want to go as Apple, fine, but be consistent across the product lines.
  - wvenable 7y ago
    You can't power a laptop from a Lightning cable. Lightning came out 7 years ago to replace the 30-pin connector. It makes sense for the laptops to replace their proprietary power ports with USB-C but they'd need a time machine to be consistent across product lines and not screw somebody over.
lucisferre 7y ago
Lightning tax? Have you tried finding charging options for USB-C after forgetting yours in an airport yet?

mirkules 7y ago

For me, the must haves are: 1. Headphone jack. Absolute MUST for any sort of music recording (lag, quality) and long distance running (battery life). 2. TouchID. My wife has FaceId and I hate it so much. Everything else I can live with or without. I’m still on my 6s+ for those reasons, and it’s sad. Nobody would NOT buy the latest iPhone if it had those things. But a non-zero population doesn’t buy it bc it lacks them. Just silly.

epalm 7y ago
iPhone 5 SE. Headphone jack: Check. TouchID: Check. No FaceID: Check. Actually fits in my hand and I can reach any part of the screen with my thumb: Check. I guess it's not a "fast" smartphone anymore but... it's definitely Fast Enough.
mokus 7y ago
Same phone here, for the same reasons. It still does everything I want, as quickly as I want. It’s actually a little mind boggling to me that they have nearly doubled the version number without adding anything at all that I find compelling.
Lio 7y ago
This is exactly the case for me too, I love my 6S+. My only problem is that the battery is starting to die. Now I would just replace the battery and stick with it but some years ago I dropped the phone and the screen shattered. You can't see the cracks in normal head on operation and there are no usage issues but I think it would mean that I'd have to have the screen replaced to replace the battery. At some point this is not economically good sense. I can easily afford an new iPhone every year but I want a headphone socket for use with Rosetta Stone. When I use my headphones wirelessly with it it switches to a headset profile (with an annoying beep) and the sound quality drop to that of a headset before it switch back to audio profile (with another annoying beep). Apple's solutions things like audio in the new iPhones seems half baked. Using a 3.5mm headphone lead with the same Bose QC35s everything works perfectly with clear sound at all times. Also FaceId won't work when sitting in the charging cubbyhole of my car, TouchId does.
- 7y ago

Alex3917 7y ago

> I'm still on my iPhone 6, and I am not going to get the 11 either The cost of going from a 6 year upgrade cycle to a 5 year upgrade cycle is something like 12 cents per day. Even if you're not entirely happy with the current phones, at some point waiting to upgrade is a net negative if you actually cost it out and compare it rationally to your utility curve.

tannhaeuser 7y ago

> USB-C Careful what you whish for. I can totally understand the desire for uniform and interchangable power adaptors and ports, but USB-C on my S8 wore off within half a year, to the point that to "take" and speed-load, I had to ram it into the plug several times in succession, greatly contributing to wear.

csa 7y ago
Check if there was lint in the receiving area. This will cause chargers not to take.
- tannhaeuser 7y ago
  I did, and had it even blown out, to no avail.