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What's most disturbing is that it took 17 years. And whatever it is in the culture that uses liberty to zealously oppose regulation of fire arms and corporation
by TomMckenny 7y ago
What's most disturbing is that it took 17 years. And whatever it is in the culture that uses liberty to zealously oppose regulation of fire arms and corporations but lets this stand for almost a generation. It'd be interesting to learn how these priorities came about.
- mieseratte 7y agoYou wonder how these priorities came about? Do you not recall 9/11 or are you not an American? Scared people do irrational things.
- mindslight 7y ago"Scared people do irrational things" makes it sound as if the overall reaction was somehow reasonable at the time or that the priorities were organic. Most of the fear and panic was stoked by the mainstream media, in support of traitorous politicians seeing an opportunity to act on longstanding totalitarian wishes. Propaganda is a powerful weapon against Free people.
- Fnoord 7y agoIf the end goal of the terrorists was forcing the West into a more totalitarian, less free society, then they succeeded.
- SamReidHughes 7y agoA terror watch list or a no-fly list isn't irrational at all. It's sensible in principle, if you don't value civil rights that much.
- ColanR 7y ago> And whatever it is in the culture that uses liberty to zealously oppose regulation of fire arms and corporations but lets this stand for almost a generation. I think if you talked to the people who opposed firearm regulation (not their representatives, not a media portrayal, and not some vocal minority), you would find that most also opposed this watch list. Hence the existence of the NRA, the EFF and the ACLU.
- romwell 7y ago>not their representatives Right, so why do these people let themselves be represented by those figures? I have the same question for the vast majority of the conservative voter base.
- ColanR 7y agoWhy does anyone end up represented by any imperfect person? That question is just as applicable on both sides of the political spectrum. If you're American, why did you let yourself be represented by President Trump?
- RickJWagner 7y agoI like Trump better than the alternative, and history has agreed. We have record low unemployment for Blacks and Hispanics. Retirement accounts (401ks) are fat, good news for retirees. We have had rising wages for the working class for the first time in many years. That's why I let myself be represented by President Trump. He isn't perfect, but he's done very well for most of America.
- 616c 7y agoI am very much a cynic. Show me references to data and let's do the math. This is HN after all. I look forward to this exercise. I have a family of Trump supporters and I get percentages and perceptions like these from them in debate but have trouble getting them to point to those things as products of solid unbiased sources of statistical analyses.
- RickJWagner 7y agoWell, let's start with the record low unemployment for African Americans and Hispanics. Can you agree that's a great accomplishment?
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