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It's clearly disgusting, but the total number of Guantanamo inmates seems to be 779[1]. The watch list had 1.2M names on it, so not be too utilitarian, but it s
by blacksmith_tb 7y ago
It's clearly disgusting, but the total number of Guantanamo inmates seems to be 779[1]. The watch list had 1.2M names on it, so not be too utilitarian, but it seems like a pretty significant difference in terms of the number of people impacted (if not the severity).
1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guantanamo_Bay_detention_camp#Prisoners https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guantanamo_Bay_detention_camp#...
- jacquesm 7y agoPutting people on a list vs putting them in perpetual detention without a trial is on an entirely different level of moral failure.
- teh_klev 7y agoI agree, but they're both important moral failures that should be challenged. Here's a wee anecdote. When I was in my teens and early twenties (read that as late 80's) I was an active member of CND, the SNP and Scotland Out of NATO. I was active in the NUS (National Union of Students) as well and even organised a protest and student strike at my Scottish shithole of a college in Perth - having managed to drum up around 400 students to march upon the Tory offices in Perth to demonstrate against cuts to student grants and burseries. During this time I was never arrested or apprehended by the Police. In fact I've never been arrested or apprehended and as far as I know don't have a criminal or civil violation record (except maybe a handful of traffic violations - speeding, and a driving without due care and attention when I was 26 [reading my map]). After I left college, and despite being qualified for many jobs, the interviews came and went over around 6-7 years and I wondered why? Until it came to light there was an organisation called the Economic League[0] which manually compiled lists of UK activists and fed them to many organisations as a form of blacklisting. Whilst I was never able to establish that I might have been on their list, I had a fairly strong suspicion, with hindsight, I was listed. There's no way that the sort of jobs I was applying for, where right up until the last minute, the offers were withdrawn with no explanation. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_League_(United_Kingdom) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_League_(United_Kingdo...