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Now you have a giant phone, tons of photos, and no backup. People with the bigger phone are probably more likely to be buying the extra $36/yr, not less.

by basch 7y ago

gnicholas 7y ago
I back my phone up locally, just like I always have. It's the only way to get a full backup of all app states and data. iCloud only backs up certain data.
- basch 7y ago
  Most people arent plugging their phone into a computer, even weekly. Apple also has created a super terrible backup system, where iCloud and iTunes cant work together. Its very dumb that once I switch to local, that I lose iCloud. Maybe I want to go on vacation for a week, without my computer, and then come back and resume local backups. Why cant iTunes use iCloud as part of its version history??
  - bobwaycott 7y ago
    > Most people arent plugging their phone into a computer, even weekly. The phones have synced wirelessly for quite a long while now. And with wireless charging on the newer models, doing so is just so damn easy. > Its very dumb that once I switch to local, that I lose iCloud. Can’t you still rely on iCloud for saving and backing up app data, while retaining the full local sync and backup in iTunes? I don’t recall iCloud being disabled when locally syncing, and am pretty sure apps still save data to iCloud on my devices. > Why cant iTunes use iCloud as part of its version history?? Is that really necessary when iTunes can already sync and backup the whole device as it is when you activate the sync/backup process?
    - basch 7y ago
      Wireless but still needs power, no? And my computer has to be on? The rest of my complaint is mostly about how complicated a restore becomes if I was using local backup, and then arent home for a while, and need to remerge local and cloud backups. Last I remember, the interface makes you choose one or the other to restore, and then your version history gets all mucked up, as the one you choose becomes the new golden branch.
      - gnicholas 7y ago
        > Wireless but still needs power, no? And my computer has to be on? Don't you charge your phone, in range of your computer?
- mensetmanusman 7y ago
  Not anymore. iCloud backs up app states and data. I restore multiple devices from the cloud regularly and I wouldn’t do so if app meta data wasn’t stored on iCloud.
  - zimpenfish 7y ago
    > iCloud backs up app states and data. Although I believe the app developers have to be aware of this and utilise the various storage options correctly - certainly in my latest restore, a whole bunch of apps had lost their state (logins, etc.) Most disconcerting and aggravatingly inconvenient.

Now you have a giant phone, tons of photos, and no backup. People with the bigger phone are probably more likely to be buying the extra $36/yr, not less.

by basch 7y ago

Now you have a giant phone, tons of photos, and no backup. People with the bigger phone are probably more likely to be buying the extra $36/yr, not less.

gnicholas 7y ago

I back my phone up locally, just like I always have. It's the only way to get a full backup of all app states and data. iCloud only backs up certain data.

basch 7y ago
Most people arent plugging their phone into a computer, even weekly. Apple also has created a super terrible backup system, where iCloud and iTunes cant work together. Its very dumb that once I switch to local, that I lose iCloud. Maybe I want to go on vacation for a week, without my computer, and then come back and resume local backups. Why cant iTunes use iCloud as part of its version history??
- bobwaycott 7y ago
  > Most people arent plugging their phone into a computer, even weekly. The phones have synced wirelessly for quite a long while now. And with wireless charging on the newer models, doing so is just so damn easy. > Its very dumb that once I switch to local, that I lose iCloud. Can’t you still rely on iCloud for saving and backing up app data, while retaining the full local sync and backup in iTunes? I don’t recall iCloud being disabled when locally syncing, and am pretty sure apps still save data to iCloud on my devices. > Why cant iTunes use iCloud as part of its version history?? Is that really necessary when iTunes can already sync and backup the whole device as it is when you activate the sync/backup process?
  - basch 7y ago
    Wireless but still needs power, no? And my computer has to be on? The rest of my complaint is mostly about how complicated a restore becomes if I was using local backup, and then arent home for a while, and need to remerge local and cloud backups. Last I remember, the interface makes you choose one or the other to restore, and then your version history gets all mucked up, as the one you choose becomes the new golden branch.
    - gnicholas 7y ago
      > Wireless but still needs power, no? And my computer has to be on? Don't you charge your phone, in range of your computer?
mensetmanusman 7y ago
Not anymore. iCloud backs up app states and data. I restore multiple devices from the cloud regularly and I wouldn’t do so if app meta data wasn’t stored on iCloud.
- zimpenfish 7y ago
  > iCloud backs up app states and data. Although I believe the app developers have to be aware of this and utilise the various storage options correctly - certainly in my latest restore, a whole bunch of apps had lost their state (logins, etc.) Most disconcerting and aggravatingly inconvenient.