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> Better computational photography Basically catching up to the Pixel > new immersive audio algorithms Will have to try it out but it sounds very much like f
by ehsankia 7y ago
> Better computational photography
Basically catching up to the Pixel
> new immersive audio algorithms
Will have to try it out but it sounds very much like fluff
> on-CPU changes for optimized ML matrix computations
So faster matrix multiplies are a user-facing feature?
Other than the camera changes, there was no features an average user would be excited over. No new tech like face unlock, animojis, Samsung's audio focus, Pixel's Soli, or other real new features.
- z5h 7y agoI was countering your claim that these were spec bumps. Now we're instead having a discussion about Android phones and Animojis? I can't keep track.
- nanoservices 7y ago> Now we're instead having a discussion about Android phones and Animojis? Because you & apple during the presentation made is sound like computational photography in phones was something ground breaking and never before seen. Its been in the Pixel phone for years.
- colejohnson66 7y agoNo one said it was new. They said it was big for Apple. Yes, Apple is always behind their competitors in many things, but that’s not why people buy Apple.
- ehsankia 7y agoI categorize announcements in two buckets: 1. Spec bumps: These are mostly invisible to the consumer, it just gives them a phone that's slightly faster or lasts longer. Faster matrix multiply falls into this category. 2. Features: These are actual changes the user can see and interact with. I named a few examples, both on software (animoji/sound focus) and hardware (face unlock/soli) side. This presentation had almost none of the latter, other than Dark Mode. I'm not sure why that statement is so hard to understand. None of the stuff you named were really features. No one goes to the store to buy the phone with the slightly faster cpu or better matrix multiplies.
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- spike021 7y agoI'm never sure why everything always has to be about "X was slow to do Y, and now they're finally catching up to Z". It is how it is, just let it be. If you prefer a certain brand then just go with that brand. Otherwise it's just a wasted effort to be trying to brag for one brand you don't even work for that they did something faster than another one.
- FireBeyond 7y ago> It is how it is, just let it be. It's the corollary to: > Apple are so incredible at delivering this kind of stuff that it seems routine
- ehsankia 7y agoEven ignoring that line, it's still basically the only feature they announced for the phone...
- prewett 7y agoOther than the 20% faster CPU, 4-5 additional hours of battery life, 2e6:1 contrast ratio, and 30% faster FaceID (which might be the difference between the phone seeming to immediately unlock and pausing briefly)? If Intel or AMD announces a 20% faster chip it would be met with applause. Now imagine if they announced a 20% faster chip that also used 25% less energy. And it also takes great pictures with three different lenses, recognizes your face, has one of the best screens ever made, and so on. If that's not impressive, what would Apple have to do to be impressive?
- baddox 7y agoWould it be more impressive if they didn't try to catch up to the Pixel?
- sbierwagen 7y agoAnimojis as "new tech" that an "average user would be excited over"?
- ehsankia 7y agoDo you think an average user is more excited by animojis or faster matrix multiplies?