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Hmmm... You say that but my music collection is 3+ tb of flacs so that's not fitting on any sd card currently. I have a 64gb phone with a 200gig SD card in and

Hmmm... You say that but my music collection is 3+ tb of flacs so that's not fitting on any sd card currently. I have a 64gb phone with a 200gig SD card in and whenever I consider getting a larger one, or a phone with more storage I realise that there's no point as I'm only thing to get another free percent of music on there. Given that I routinely copy/listen/delete music to my phone I'm not sure in practice there's a lot of difference between a 64/128gb phone with an SD card slot and just a 32/64gb phone without it.

leetcrew 7y ago
if you routinely copy a portion of your music to your phone, of course it makes sense to get more storage. I just don't bother doing that, because of the inevitable frustration of trying to play a song that isn't actually on my phone. rather than switch between streaming and local music all the time, I've just given in to streaming.
- iamnotacrook 7y ago
  "if you routinely copy a portion of your music to your phone, of course it makes sense to get more storage." Well, if you've only got a portion then the only difference between having 10% and 99% is how frequently you have to copy new music on/how long you can go without having to copy new music, at least in my case, where I delete albums off the phone as I play them, and copying music between linux server and android phone via samba/wifi is fast and simple. Streaming - ugh... i use public transport including the tube, I fly (sometimes), I end up in areas without perfect coverage, and I listen to flac so you can't stream that well, and it would take a lot of data, and the choice is limited, and I'd be renting music not owning it forever. Streaming doesn't solve a single problem for me (my daughter loves it, though).
  - lozenge 7y ago
    Listening to flac on the tube... pick your battles! Can you hear the lack of compression over the rattling and shrieking?
    - iamnotacrook 7y ago
      Back in the day i used to listen to CDs on the tube and no-one told me I should be listening to a cassette based walkman instead. What's changed?
  - leetcrew 7y ago
    personally I just don't like to decide what I'm listening to ahead of time. I like to have my whole library available at any time. I'd love to have all my flacs/v0s on my device, but it just isn't feasible with current capacities/prices. music is an extremely personal thing though. I guess I shouldn't be surprised that people have very different usage patterns.
- fjp 7y ago
  I stream, but I also have Spotify keep ~4,000 songs worth of saved playlists on my phone for flights and driving in areas with no service, etc.
jsjohnst 7y ago
> You say that but my music collection is 3+ tb of flacs Can the DAC on your Android actually benefit from the FLACs? Might make sense to re-encode the library into a format better suited to the playback hardware and leave the FLACs at home where the audio hardware benefits from it.
- leetcrew 7y ago
  enthusiasts aren't necessarily using the onboard DAC. plenty of small external DACs exist that can receive a digital audio stream over the phone's USB.
  - willtim 7y ago
    I use the dragonfly red, a fantastic dac and amp that was significant upgrade over the built in phone one.
    - jsjohnst 7y ago
      I’ve tried the Dragonfly on my phone and tablet and it was very unstable, and to my knowledge it was the only one to buy from friends who are far more knowledgeable on that than me.
      - willtim 7y ago
        I use it with the excellent USB Audio Player Pro. It uses its own driver for external DACs, I guess because the Android one is not fit for purpose.
- willtim 7y ago
  At home I use a dragonfly red DAC paired with some open back sennheisers. But even when I'm out and about I benefit from FLAC. I use some noise cancelling Sony headphones which use the lossy LDAC codec over Bluetooth. My FLACs sounded noticeable better over LDAC, I guess because the music is only compressed once.

leetcrew 7y ago

if you routinely copy a portion of your music to your phone, of course it makes sense to get more storage. I just don't bother doing that, because of the inevitable frustration of trying to play a song that isn't actually on my phone. rather than switch between streaming and local music all the time, I've just given in to streaming.

iamnotacrook 7y ago
"if you routinely copy a portion of your music to your phone, of course it makes sense to get more storage." Well, if you've only got a portion then the only difference between having 10% and 99% is how frequently you have to copy new music on/how long you can go without having to copy new music, at least in my case, where I delete albums off the phone as I play them, and copying music between linux server and android phone via samba/wifi is fast and simple. Streaming - ugh... i use public transport including the tube, I fly (sometimes), I end up in areas without perfect coverage, and I listen to flac so you can't stream that well, and it would take a lot of data, and the choice is limited, and I'd be renting music not owning it forever. Streaming doesn't solve a single problem for me (my daughter loves it, though).
- lozenge 7y ago
  Listening to flac on the tube... pick your battles! Can you hear the lack of compression over the rattling and shrieking?
  - iamnotacrook 7y ago
    Back in the day i used to listen to CDs on the tube and no-one told me I should be listening to a cassette based walkman instead. What's changed?
- leetcrew 7y ago
  personally I just don't like to decide what I'm listening to ahead of time. I like to have my whole library available at any time. I'd love to have all my flacs/v0s on my device, but it just isn't feasible with current capacities/prices. music is an extremely personal thing though. I guess I shouldn't be surprised that people have very different usage patterns.
fjp 7y ago
I stream, but I also have Spotify keep ~4,000 songs worth of saved playlists on my phone for flights and driving in areas with no service, etc.

jsjohnst 7y ago

> You say that but my music collection is 3+ tb of flacs Can the DAC on your Android actually benefit from the FLACs? Might make sense to re-encode the library into a format better suited to the playback hardware and leave the FLACs at home where the audio hardware benefits from it.

leetcrew 7y ago
enthusiasts aren't necessarily using the onboard DAC. plenty of small external DACs exist that can receive a digital audio stream over the phone's USB.
- willtim 7y ago
  I use the dragonfly red, a fantastic dac and amp that was significant upgrade over the built in phone one.
  - jsjohnst 7y ago
    I’ve tried the Dragonfly on my phone and tablet and it was very unstable, and to my knowledge it was the only one to buy from friends who are far more knowledgeable on that than me.
    - willtim 7y ago
      I use it with the excellent USB Audio Player Pro. It uses its own driver for external DACs, I guess because the Android one is not fit for purpose.
willtim 7y ago
At home I use a dragonfly red DAC paired with some open back sennheisers. But even when I'm out and about I benefit from FLAC. I use some noise cancelling Sony headphones which use the lossy LDAC codec over Bluetooth. My FLACs sounded noticeable better over LDAC, I guess because the music is only compressed once.