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Sadly still missing USB-C

nosmokearea 7y ago
Yeah, the entire world is using superior USB-C and charge smartphones directly from laptop cable. Apple users still carry adapters...
- nanoservices 7y ago
  Adapters to plugin in iPhones in to Mac Books... Its hilariously incompetent.
  - stilldavid 7y ago
    Does this cable not work to plug an iPhone into a macbook these days, or am I missing something? https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MQGJ2AM/A/usb-c-to-lightning-cable-1-m https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MQGJ2AM/A/usb-c-to-lightn...
    - freehunter 7y ago
      Sure it does, but it doesn't ship in the box. In the box is a USB-A -> Lightning cable.
      - colejohnson66 7y ago
        Not every computer comes with USB C. Pretty much every computer though does come with USB A. And IIRC, male A to male C cables are not allowed per the spec
        cesarb 7y ago
        Male USB-A to male USB-C cables are allowed, what's not allowed is male or female USB-A or USB-B to female USB-C. That is, on a USB-C to legacy cable, the USB-C end is always male.
      - chipotle_coyote 7y ago
        I get that there's arguably a "general principle of the matter" component here, but the cable that comes with the iPhone is more useful to me than a USB-C version would be. My use cases -- and I doubt I'm an outlier -- are "charge the phone," where it really doesn't matter what the end that plugs into the charger is, and "connect to CarPlay," where my (model year 2019) car has USB-A but not USB-C. If the iPhone shipped with USB-C to Lightning cable and charger, it would be marginally less useful to me -- I'd just have to go buy the USB-A to Lightning cable. The number of times I've needed to physically connect my iPhone to any of my Macs is, as far as I can recall, zero, and it's been that way for years. Wireless everything has been much, much better for me. The only time I've really used a cable is to do backups before installing beta versions of iOS. (And that backs up to my Mac mini, which -- even in its current updated incarnation -- still has USB-A ports.)
      - ThatPlayer 7y ago
        It sounds like the new iPhone 11 Pros will come with USB-C -> Lightning. Since it's supposed to come with a 18W charger, and iPhones use USB-PD, which does not work over USB-A.
noja 7y ago
USB-C has more dust problems in my experience. With lightning you can just blow out the dust (bigger space).
tomchuk 7y ago
I was disappointed as well. But I get it. After three years, Pixel users still have to refer to a guide [0] or track down a Google Engineer's Amazon reviews [1] to find a 3rd party USB-C cable on Amazon that doesn't have the potential to fry their device [2]. If I were Apple, I'd be hesitant to jump on to USB-C, when Amazon and gas stations around the world are selling $5 cables and chargers that are so out-of-spec that they introduce the very real possibility of damaging devices that will end up at the Genius Bar for an AppleCare+ repair/replacement. [0] https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/wiki/officialguide/usbcinfo https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/wiki/officialguide/usbc... [1] https://www.amazon.com/gp/profile/amzn1.account.AFLICGQRF6BRJGH2RRD4VGMB47ZA https://www.amazon.com/gp/profile/amzn1.account.AFLICGQRF6BR... [2] https://www.engadget.com/2016/02/03/benson-leung-chromebook-pixel-usb-type-c-test/ https://www.engadget.com/2016/02/03/benson-leung-chromebook-...

Yeah, the entire world is using superior USB-C and charge smartphones directly from laptop cable. Apple users still carry adapters...

nanoservices 7y ago
Adapters to plugin in iPhones in to Mac Books... Its hilariously incompetent.
- stilldavid 7y ago
  Does this cable not work to plug an iPhone into a macbook these days, or am I missing something? https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MQGJ2AM/A/usb-c-to-lightning-cable-1-m https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MQGJ2AM/A/usb-c-to-lightn...
  - freehunter 7y ago
    Sure it does, but it doesn't ship in the box. In the box is a USB-A -> Lightning cable.
    - colejohnson66 7y ago
      Not every computer comes with USB C. Pretty much every computer though does come with USB A. And IIRC, male A to male C cables are not allowed per the spec
      - cesarb 7y ago
        Male USB-A to male USB-C cables are allowed, what's not allowed is male or female USB-A or USB-B to female USB-C. That is, on a USB-C to legacy cable, the USB-C end is always male.
    - chipotle_coyote 7y ago
      I get that there's arguably a "general principle of the matter" component here, but the cable that comes with the iPhone is more useful to me than a USB-C version would be. My use cases -- and I doubt I'm an outlier -- are "charge the phone," where it really doesn't matter what the end that plugs into the charger is, and "connect to CarPlay," where my (model year 2019) car has USB-A but not USB-C. If the iPhone shipped with USB-C to Lightning cable and charger, it would be marginally less useful to me -- I'd just have to go buy the USB-A to Lightning cable. The number of times I've needed to physically connect my iPhone to any of my Macs is, as far as I can recall, zero, and it's been that way for years. Wireless everything has been much, much better for me. The only time I've really used a cable is to do backups before installing beta versions of iOS. (And that backs up to my Mac mini, which -- even in its current updated incarnation -- still has USB-A ports.)
    - ThatPlayer 7y ago
      It sounds like the new iPhone 11 Pros will come with USB-C -> Lightning. Since it's supposed to come with a 18W charger, and iPhones use USB-PD, which does not work over USB-A.

noja 7y ago

USB-C has more dust problems in my experience. With lightning you can just blow out the dust (bigger space).

tomchuk 7y ago

I was disappointed as well. But I get it. After three years, Pixel users still have to refer to a guide [0] or track down a Google Engineer's Amazon reviews [1] to find a 3rd party USB-C cable on Amazon that doesn't have the potential to fry their device [2]. If I were Apple, I'd be hesitant to jump on to USB-C, when Amazon and gas stations around the world are selling $5 cables and chargers that are so out-of-spec that they introduce the very real possibility of damaging devices that will end up at the Genius Bar for an AppleCare+ repair/replacement. [0] https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/wiki/officialguide/usbcinfo https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/wiki/officialguide/usbc... [1] https://www.amazon.com/gp/profile/amzn1.account.AFLICGQRF6BRJGH2RRD4VGMB47ZA https://www.amazon.com/gp/profile/amzn1.account.AFLICGQRF6BR... [2] https://www.engadget.com/2016/02/03/benson-leung-chromebook-pixel-usb-type-c-test/ https://www.engadget.com/2016/02/03/benson-leung-chromebook-...