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Cool, another supporter of a smaller iPhone. I upgraded my SE to a newer SE after buying a clearance SE from the Apple store. If they could make a high res. scr

by dpflan 7y ago

Cool, another supporter of a smaller iPhone. I upgraded my SE to a newer SE after buying a clearance SE from the Apple store. If they could make a high res. screen that essentially is the entire front of the phone (ala the trend for larger phones), I'd be impressed and upgrade. I wonder what data is motivating Apple with regard to phone sizes. I assume trends towards video and image consumption are really pushing for larger screens. Anyone have any insight or knowledge?

JansjoFromIkea 7y ago
On one side having a significantly smaller screen to cater to limits app developers quite a bit, so removing the 320px option would be welcomed there. Another factor is the things that drive a person to spend $500+ on a phone are probably quite far removed from what they actually want from a phone from day to day. A big huge all encompassing screen is gonna outperform something that actually fits in your pocket every time.
- saagarjha 7y ago
  > On one side having a significantly smaller screen to cater to limits app developers quite a bit, so removing the 320px option would be welcomed there. I develop iOS apps and love my iPhone SE. It's a bit difficult to develop for that screen size, but it's only a little bit of additional effort and I wouldn't give up my phone for that. Plus, even if iPhone SE went away there are new devices with that form factor (for example, the new iPod Touch) that will be supported for quite some time.
  - dpflan 7y ago
    I've noticed this: web apps for mobile and even iOS apps seem to spill over. Is there a tool for helping you to develop for the varying screen sizes? (SE surely is an outlier here, but still, the question stands).
    - saagarjha 7y ago
      Honestly, the biggest one is just using the device regularly: you'll be able to tell what'll work and what won't a lot easier. It's clear when people design an interface for a device they haven't used (even Apple does this for certain apps). Get a physical iPhone SE (they're quite cheap) and use it as a development device. Or even better, use it as your actual device.
- javagram 7y ago
  Isn’t the SE screen size the same as a 2x assistive size on the larger phone? So by developing apps compatible with the SE, it’s also helping the visually impaired.
TylerE 7y ago
> If they could make a high res. screen that essentially is the entire front of the phone So, an Iphone X?
- sp332 7y ago
  Yes, but with at least an inch knocked off the screen size.
- dpflan 7y ago
  Sure, like an iPhone X but the size of the SE. Cursory Google searching for comparing SE vs X Display sizes: - SE: 4.0" (10.16 cm) - X: 5.8" (14.73 cm) (source: https://www.gadgetsnow.com/compare-mobile-phones/Apple-iPhone-SE-vs-Apple-iPhone-X https://www.gadgetsnow.com/compare-mobile-phones/Apple-iPhon...) X's display is 45% larger, but the phone's total size is larger too.
  - TylerE 7y ago
    The actual device, while larger, isn't much. Like a half inch in length, and a quarter inch in width.
    - robertoandred 7y ago
      The X is even bigger than the 8, which is much bigger than the SE.
    - violinist 7y ago
      I moved straight from an SE to a iPhone X - it's substantially larger. https://phonesized.com/compare/#632,900 https://phonesized.com/compare/#632,900
    - masklinn 7y ago
      > The actual device, while larger, isn't much. Like a half inch in length, and a quarter inch in width. You're off by almost a factor of 2, and furthermore that makes these increases significant in relative terms. The 5S is 4.87"x2.31", the X is 5.65"x2.79", that's +0.78"/+16% in height and much worse +0.48"/+21% in width. The phone is more "surface efficient" (phone diagonals goes from 5.4" to 6.3", or a 0.9" (and 16%) increase where the screen increased by 1.8") but it's still significantly bigger.
wyclif 7y ago
A few reasons: ~ Many people using phone as their only connected device (i.e., no computer at home) ~ Increased video and image consumption ~ More and more women buying smartphones (women tend not to be inconvenienced by large screens since they often store their phone in their purse)

by dpflan 7y ago

JansjoFromIkea 7y ago

On one side having a significantly smaller screen to cater to limits app developers quite a bit, so removing the 320px option would be welcomed there. Another factor is the things that drive a person to spend $500+ on a phone are probably quite far removed from what they actually want from a phone from day to day. A big huge all encompassing screen is gonna outperform something that actually fits in your pocket every time.

saagarjha 7y ago
> On one side having a significantly smaller screen to cater to limits app developers quite a bit, so removing the 320px option would be welcomed there. I develop iOS apps and love my iPhone SE. It's a bit difficult to develop for that screen size, but it's only a little bit of additional effort and I wouldn't give up my phone for that. Plus, even if iPhone SE went away there are new devices with that form factor (for example, the new iPod Touch) that will be supported for quite some time.
- dpflan 7y ago
  I've noticed this: web apps for mobile and even iOS apps seem to spill over. Is there a tool for helping you to develop for the varying screen sizes? (SE surely is an outlier here, but still, the question stands).
  - saagarjha 7y ago
    Honestly, the biggest one is just using the device regularly: you'll be able to tell what'll work and what won't a lot easier. It's clear when people design an interface for a device they haven't used (even Apple does this for certain apps). Get a physical iPhone SE (they're quite cheap) and use it as a development device. Or even better, use it as your actual device.
javagram 7y ago
Isn’t the SE screen size the same as a 2x assistive size on the larger phone? So by developing apps compatible with the SE, it’s also helping the visually impaired.

TylerE 7y ago

> If they could make a high res. screen that essentially is the entire front of the phone So, an Iphone X?

sp332 7y ago
Yes, but with at least an inch knocked off the screen size.
dpflan 7y ago
Sure, like an iPhone X but the size of the SE. Cursory Google searching for comparing SE vs X Display sizes: - SE: 4.0" (10.16 cm) - X: 5.8" (14.73 cm) (source: https://www.gadgetsnow.com/compare-mobile-phones/Apple-iPhone-SE-vs-Apple-iPhone-X https://www.gadgetsnow.com/compare-mobile-phones/Apple-iPhon...) X's display is 45% larger, but the phone's total size is larger too.
- TylerE 7y ago
  The actual device, while larger, isn't much. Like a half inch in length, and a quarter inch in width.
  - robertoandred 7y ago
    The X is even bigger than the 8, which is much bigger than the SE.
  - violinist 7y ago
    I moved straight from an SE to a iPhone X - it's substantially larger. https://phonesized.com/compare/#632,900 https://phonesized.com/compare/#632,900
  - masklinn 7y ago
    > The actual device, while larger, isn't much. Like a half inch in length, and a quarter inch in width. You're off by almost a factor of 2, and furthermore that makes these increases significant in relative terms. The 5S is 4.87"x2.31", the X is 5.65"x2.79", that's +0.78"/+16% in height and much worse +0.48"/+21% in width. The phone is more "surface efficient" (phone diagonals goes from 5.4" to 6.3", or a 0.9" (and 16%) increase where the screen increased by 1.8") but it's still significantly bigger.

wyclif 7y ago

A few reasons: ~ Many people using phone as their only connected device (i.e., no computer at home) ~ Increased video and image consumption ~ More and more women buying smartphones (women tend not to be inconvenienced by large screens since they often store their phone in their purse)