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Rust cannot be used in most professional use cases where Ada programs can be deployed because the Rust toolchain isn't a qualified one for any of the various IE

Rust cannot be used in most professional use cases where Ada programs can be deployed because the Rust toolchain isn't a qualified one for any of the various IEC 61508 derived qualification regimes. Which is a shame, because Rust is a great fit for these use cases. Though there are a lot of ecosystem shaped things that present practical challenges too: things that should/could be in no_std but unnecessarily depend on std instead, a variety of cargo workflow issues, etc. There's a group in Germany (I think) that proposed attempting to qualify Rust to get it approved for inclusion in the list of 61508 languages, but that proposal did not seem to be met with much enthusiasm. We're using Rust to build tools to service those kinds of industries, and it's non-trivial to justify its use even in adjacent tooling. Let alone to be directly deployed to a target device.

steveklabnik 7y ago
> There's a group in Germany (I think) that proposed attempting to qualify Rust to get it approved for inclusion in the list of 61508 languages, but that proposal did not seem to be met with much enthusiasm. https://ferrous-systems.com/blog/sealed-rust-the-pitch/ https://ferrous-systems.com/blog/sealed-rust-the-pitch/ There's still a lot of interest; this stuff doesn't happen quickly.
- im_down_w_otp 7y ago
  I got the impression folks were lukewarm to it with concerns about what it would mean with respect to Rust's rolling release cycle and other shapes of incongruent goals between how to manage Rust as a big project and what it takes to maintain compliance for standards purposes. I would be thrilled to death for that effort to move forward with zeal however. If a WG develops around it, I'd also happily provide engineering resources to coordinate and work on the effort.
  - steveklabnik 7y ago
    I'm not directly involved, so I can't say too much, but the general advice of "comments on the internet are not representative" applies. You should get in touch with the Ferrous folks, I'm sure they'd love to hear from you.

steveklabnik 7y ago

> There's a group in Germany (I think) that proposed attempting to qualify Rust to get it approved for inclusion in the list of 61508 languages, but that proposal did not seem to be met with much enthusiasm. https://ferrous-systems.com/blog/sealed-rust-the-pitch/ https://ferrous-systems.com/blog/sealed-rust-the-pitch/ There's still a lot of interest; this stuff doesn't happen quickly.

im_down_w_otp 7y ago
I got the impression folks were lukewarm to it with concerns about what it would mean with respect to Rust's rolling release cycle and other shapes of incongruent goals between how to manage Rust as a big project and what it takes to maintain compliance for standards purposes. I would be thrilled to death for that effort to move forward with zeal however. If a WG develops around it, I'd also happily provide engineering resources to coordinate and work on the effort.
- steveklabnik 7y ago
  I'm not directly involved, so I can't say too much, but the general advice of "comments on the internet are not representative" applies. You should get in touch with the Ferrous folks, I'm sure they'd love to hear from you.