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Like it or not your decisions have an impact on other people’s lives and vice versa. Public health is important, we know the general public will not look out fo

Like it or not your decisions have an impact on other people’s lives and vice versa. Public health is important, we know the general public will not look out for their best interests on aggregate (see smoking or the opioid epidemic). As individuals we’re not equipped to defend against profit seeking products that are bad for our health, hence we need action from our elected representatives.

mieseratte 7y ago
> As individuals we’re not equipped to defend against profit seeking products that are bad for our health, hence we need action from our elected representatives. Just say no?
- SketchySeaBeast 7y ago
  And how did the DARE program work out?
  - kortilla 7y ago
    And how did banning marijuana work out?
  - knightofmars 7y ago
    Ah yes, "Big Brother" DARE. https://www.nytimes.com/1983/02/22/us/fingerprinting-of-children-spreading.html https://www.nytimes.com/1983/02/22/us/fingerprinting-of-chil...
  - dragonwriter 7y ago
    > And how did the DARE program work out? As I recall, the research found it was highly effective at improving subjects (vs. non-subjects) images of law enforcement, but had no discernable effect on subjects (compared to non-subjects) when looking at drug use, drug abuse, or drug-related crime.
- ilikehurdles 7y ago
  Man, where is this attitude when opiates are in the news!
  - mieseratte 7y ago
    We could ask ol' Nancy, unfortunately I hear Sid killed her.
- crispyporkbites 7y ago
  You don’t have as much free will as you think you do on these matters.
  - mieseratte 7y ago
    > You don’t have as much free will as you think you do on these matters. So your answer is having Nanny Government ban it? Can't worry about free will if you don't have it, I suppose.
magashna 7y ago
Let's see how well banning red meat and cars would go over. Vapes are an easy target right now. Heart disease and auto accidents are some of the greatest threats to the average American, but you'll never hear a politician going after those.
- cglace 7y ago
  Cars are an integral part of our culture and economy and are regulated in every conceivable way. E-cigs are a relatively new vice. Hardly comparable.
  - atlasunshrugged 7y ago
    Not to mention the things we take for granted in cars today that are there due to regulations - bumpers, seatbelts, airbags, minimum safety standards, etc.
    - homonculus1 7y ago
      Those are requirements, not bans.
    - ciupicri 7y ago
      Right because regulations created all these things, not manufacturers like Mercedes and Volvo trying to offer better cars to their customers.
- crispyporkbites 7y ago
  Cars and red meat aren’t really comparable as they have a long history in society. But Cars are probably the most regulated thing you interact with day to day. You need a license, insurance and have to follow precise rules to operate them safely. Red meat also has restrictions from government bodies. In the free market those rules wouldn’t exist and people would be upset about taking their rights away when you regulate them.
  - magashna 7y ago

mieseratte 7y ago

> As individuals we’re not equipped to defend against profit seeking products that are bad for our health, hence we need action from our elected representatives. Just say no?

SketchySeaBeast 7y ago
And how did the DARE program work out?
- kortilla 7y ago
  And how did banning marijuana work out?
- knightofmars 7y ago
  Ah yes, "Big Brother" DARE. https://www.nytimes.com/1983/02/22/us/fingerprinting-of-children-spreading.html https://www.nytimes.com/1983/02/22/us/fingerprinting-of-chil...
- dragonwriter 7y ago
  > And how did the DARE program work out? As I recall, the research found it was highly effective at improving subjects (vs. non-subjects) images of law enforcement, but had no discernable effect on subjects (compared to non-subjects) when looking at drug use, drug abuse, or drug-related crime.
ilikehurdles 7y ago
Man, where is this attitude when opiates are in the news!
- mieseratte 7y ago
  We could ask ol' Nancy, unfortunately I hear Sid killed her.
crispyporkbites 7y ago
You don’t have as much free will as you think you do on these matters.
- mieseratte 7y ago
  > You don’t have as much free will as you think you do on these matters. So your answer is having Nanny Government ban it? Can't worry about free will if you don't have it, I suppose.

magashna 7y ago

Let's see how well banning red meat and cars would go over. Vapes are an easy target right now. Heart disease and auto accidents are some of the greatest threats to the average American, but you'll never hear a politician going after those.

cglace 7y ago
Cars are an integral part of our culture and economy and are regulated in every conceivable way. E-cigs are a relatively new vice. Hardly comparable.
- atlasunshrugged 7y ago
  Not to mention the things we take for granted in cars today that are there due to regulations - bumpers, seatbelts, airbags, minimum safety standards, etc.
  - homonculus1 7y ago
    Those are requirements, not bans.
  - ciupicri 7y ago
    Right because regulations created all these things, not manufacturers like Mercedes and Volvo trying to offer better cars to their customers.
crispyporkbites 7y ago
Cars and red meat aren’t really comparable as they have a long history in society. But Cars are probably the most regulated thing you interact with day to day. You need a license, insurance and have to follow precise rules to operate them safely. Red meat also has restrictions from government bodies. In the free market those rules wouldn’t exist and people would be upset about taking their rights away when you regulate them.
- magashna 7y ago