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Show HN: The Whole Code Catalog

156 points by stevekrouse 7y ago

stevekrouse 7y ago
Hi, HN! I made The Whole Code Catalog to inspire the creators of our next generation of computational interfaces. The name is a bit ambiguous: the Catalog is not a review of more traditional programming languages we programmers already know a lot about, like Python and C, but of interesting but less-well-known ones for us, like Smalltalk, Eve, Retool, and Zapier. If you're a programming languages and devtools nerd, come join the Future of Coding Community[1]! [1] - https://futureofcoding.org/community https://futureofcoding.org/community
- all2 7y ago
  You should do a review of Tera Term.
- danshipper 7y ago
  looks amazing!!
- deleted 7y ago
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- anaphor 7y ago
  You should look at https://monte.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ https://monte.readthedocs.io/en/latest/, and potentially add a new category for capability-based programming languages (other ones would be E or Pony)
- thecupisblue 7y ago
  Thanks for the work Steve! Love to see this, been scouring all over the place for that kind of stuff and there's stuff you cataloged I didn't get to check out yet. Excited to see there's a community around it, I'm trying to build one of those future devtools and this will be great data for me to munch while I contemplate on it. :)
Nicksil 7y ago
You posted this 22 hours ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20921692 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20921692
- stevekrouse 7y ago
  I was told by the HN staff to repost it in this format because the last posting was penalized for not being a direct link
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galfarragem 7y ago
Maybe ir's just me but after surfing around I can't really understand what this is. I can't see images neither code. Is this kind of luna-lang? Or a podcast about visual programming?
- platz 7y ago
  It's like an "awesome list" or subreddit of visual programming languages except each entry has a detail page that includes a review and feedback
- all2 7y ago
  Here, maybe is what you were looking for? > https://futureofcoding.org/catalog/hazel.html https://futureofcoding.org/catalog/hazel.html
- jlg23 7y ago
  As I read it is about the interface we use to "code", about the more abstract concepts (eg: text files vs spreadsheets vs image based/direct manipulation environments). "These reviews are for the makers of tools, those that are pushing our computational interfaces forward. The goal of the Whole Code Catalog is to provide inspiration for the tools you will one day create." In such context, the classifications make sense to me.
gkolli 7y ago
This is really neat! How can I contribute to it? Would definetly love to add some concepts to it.
simplify 7y ago
Are any of these systems based on Prolog? I feel like the next great advancement will need to use the core concept of logic programming to some extent.
- spiralganglion 7y ago
  With projects like MiniKanren, it's more likely we'll see logic programming included in a language as a library, rather than rooted at the core of the language. Look at what Clojure did with Datomic (which uses Datalog as a query language) and core.logic (an implementation of MiniKanren).
pron 7y ago
That's a very cool site! I'm not sure that "notebook" and "reactive" are the two main features I would use to describe Eve, the one language I sort-of know on that list. I think its most distinctive characteristics were that it was synchronous and logic-programming-based (reactive might well imply synchronous, as it indeed did in the '80s and '90s, but I think these days many people think of something else when they hear "reactive" and know little about its original, fundamental aspect -- the so-called synchrony hypothesis).
- all2 7y ago
  On the note of "it might not mean what you think it means", I was hoping for a short blurb describing each of the tags. A glossary, maybe?
emmanueloga_ 7y ago
Meta The site seems to be powered by observable, somehow (I don't know much about it). [1] [2]. Something that tends to happen with this kind of list is that things die, get outdated, etc. With some machine readable data it would be possible to run some health checks, like, if the project has a git repo, check time of last commit, etc. Would be cool to rethink sites like this and other list sites like those popular "awesome XYZ" pages, such that anyone could perform some quick queries from a command line in as few steps as possible ("show me all tools with good rating that were updated at least 3 months ago", etc). 1: https://futureofcoding.org/catalog/observable.js https://futureofcoding.org/catalog/observable.js 2: https://observablehq.com/@stevekrouse/untitled/3@618 https://observablehq.com/@stevekrouse/untitled/3@618
tmp20190620 7y ago
This is great resource! I found codeflow is interesting but it seems a dead project.
Nguyenhung 7y ago
Oke. Good.This is great resource! I found codeflow is interesting but it seems a dead project.

156 points by stevekrouse 7y ago

Hi, HN! I made The Whole Code Catalog to inspire the creators of our next generation of computational interfaces. The name is a bit ambiguous: the Catalog is not a review of more traditional programming languages we programmers already know a lot about, like Python and C, but of interesting but less-well-known ones for us, like Smalltalk, Eve, Retool, and Zapier. If you're a programming languages and devtools nerd, come join the Future of Coding Community[1]! [1] - https://futureofcoding.org/community https://futureofcoding.org/community

all2 7y ago
You should do a review of Tera Term.
danshipper 7y ago
looks amazing!!
deleted 7y ago
[deleted]
anaphor 7y ago
You should look at https://monte.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ https://monte.readthedocs.io/en/latest/, and potentially add a new category for capability-based programming languages (other ones would be E or Pony)
thecupisblue 7y ago
Thanks for the work Steve! Love to see this, been scouring all over the place for that kind of stuff and there's stuff you cataloged I didn't get to check out yet. Excited to see there's a community around it, I'm trying to build one of those future devtools and this will be great data for me to munch while I contemplate on it. :)

Nicksil 7y ago

You posted this 22 hours ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20921692 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20921692

stevekrouse 7y ago
I was told by the HN staff to repost it in this format because the last posting was penalized for not being a direct link
- deleted 7y ago
  [deleted]

galfarragem 7y ago

Maybe ir's just me but after surfing around I can't really understand what this is. I can't see images neither code. Is this kind of luna-lang? Or a podcast about visual programming?

platz 7y ago
It's like an "awesome list" or subreddit of visual programming languages except each entry has a detail page that includes a review and feedback
all2 7y ago
Here, maybe is what you were looking for? > https://futureofcoding.org/catalog/hazel.html https://futureofcoding.org/catalog/hazel.html
jlg23 7y ago
As I read it is about the interface we use to "code", about the more abstract concepts (eg: text files vs spreadsheets vs image based/direct manipulation environments). "These reviews are for the makers of tools, those that are pushing our computational interfaces forward. The goal of the Whole Code Catalog is to provide inspiration for the tools you will one day create." In such context, the classifications make sense to me.

gkolli 7y ago

This is really neat! How can I contribute to it? Would definetly love to add some concepts to it.

simplify 7y ago

Are any of these systems based on Prolog? I feel like the next great advancement will need to use the core concept of logic programming to some extent.

spiralganglion 7y ago
With projects like MiniKanren, it's more likely we'll see logic programming included in a language as a library, rather than rooted at the core of the language. Look at what Clojure did with Datomic (which uses Datalog as a query language) and core.logic (an implementation of MiniKanren).

pron 7y ago

That's a very cool site! I'm not sure that "notebook" and "reactive" are the two main features I would use to describe Eve, the one language I sort-of know on that list. I think its most distinctive characteristics were that it was synchronous and logic-programming-based (reactive might well imply synchronous, as it indeed did in the '80s and '90s, but I think these days many people think of something else when they hear "reactive" and know little about its original, fundamental aspect -- the so-called synchrony hypothesis).

all2 7y ago
On the note of "it might not mean what you think it means", I was hoping for a short blurb describing each of the tags. A glossary, maybe?

emmanueloga_ 7y ago

Meta The site seems to be powered by observable, somehow (I don't know much about it). [1] [2]. Something that tends to happen with this kind of list is that things die, get outdated, etc. With some machine readable data it would be possible to run some health checks, like, if the project has a git repo, check time of last commit, etc. Would be cool to rethink sites like this and other list sites like those popular "awesome XYZ" pages, such that anyone could perform some quick queries from a command line in as few steps as possible ("show me all tools with good rating that were updated at least 3 months ago", etc). 1: https://futureofcoding.org/catalog/observable.js https://futureofcoding.org/catalog/observable.js 2: https://observablehq.com/@stevekrouse/untitled/3@618 https://observablehq.com/@stevekrouse/untitled/3@618

tmp20190620 7y ago

This is great resource! I found codeflow is interesting but it seems a dead project.

Nguyenhung 7y ago

Oke. Good.This is great resource! I found codeflow is interesting but it seems a dead project.