>>at least, I’ve never heard anybody say that Lisp is both easy to use and easy learn. Richard Stallman would like to disagree with you. It was Bernie Greenbe

>>at least, I’ve never heard anybody say that Lisp is both easy to use and easy learn. Richard Stallman would like to disagree with you. It was Bernie Greenberg, who discovered that it was (2). He wrote a version of Emacs in Multics MacLisp, and he wrote his commands in MacLisp in a straightforward fashion. The editor itself was written entirely in Lisp. Multics Emacs proved to be a great success — programming new editing commands was so convenient that even the secretaries in his office started learning how to use it. They used a manual someone had written which showed how to extend Emacs, but didn't say it was a programming. So the secretaries, who believed they couldn't do programming, weren't scared off. They read the manual, discovered they could do useful things and they learned to program. https://www.gnu.org/gnu/rms-lisp.en.html https://www.gnu.org/gnu/rms-lisp.en.html Its quite a statement when secretaries back then without the internet and with just manuals. Were able to learn and program Emacs in Elisp. Speaks volumes about the current generation of programmers and ability to learn or commit to any deep expertise.