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I think people who came away from that video thinking Elon won don't understand the Chinese sense of humour. Jack Ma was trolling the shit out of Elon ("Alibaba

I think people who came away from that video thinking Elon won don't understand the Chinese sense of humour. Jack Ma was trolling the shit out of Elon ("Alibaba AI", "the future is not IQ or EQ, but Love Quotient"), and not only did Elon take the bait, he seemed like he was trying to one-up Ma's ridiculousness. "Protect the light of consciousness!". Musk even managed to mention aliens at one stage. To me it seemed like the kind of video someone might show their children: "Don't do drugs, or else you'll end up publically making a fool of yourself like Musk did!".

owens99 7y ago
I highly doubt your point of view on this. Can you provide any evidence?
- logicchains 7y ago
  This is the man who paid to make a movie of himself beating up Jet Li (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfS9Uf5SKu8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfS9Uf5SKu8), the man who showed up to an annual company event dressed as Michael Jackson and dancing Thriller (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31pwCOSVS0g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31pwCOSVS0g). If you really think he believes that the "love quotient" is the future of humanity, I've got a bridge to sell you. In Mainland China to get ahead you need to learn to say a bunch of stuff that nobody believes in, e.g. Maozedong Thought in high school/uni exams. Like political correctness in the West, except few people take it seriously. Ma's points were an example of this: focus on education, focus on AI helping us understand ourselves, focus on growing creativity, focus on what we can do to help the Earth, focus on automation freeing up more time for leisure. Non-controversial platitudes that nobody can really disagree with (at least not in China). Musk completely misses this, and goes out saying all kind of stuff about aliens, superintelligent robots and "biological bootloaders" that sounds completely bonkers to somebody not caught up in the hype (or somebody who actually works with ML). Ma catches on to this and has a field day hamming up his presentation, realising that this game is something Musk is completely incapable of playing. Just imagine how absurd it would be if somebody stood up at Party Congress and started talking about aliens; that person certainly wouldn't be presenting at the next Congress to say the least.
kkarakk 7y ago
i hate to do this but this sounds exactly like jack ma is the personification of the "i was only pretending to be stupid" meme that is rampant in online culture
- logicchains 7y ago
  Would someone who was only pretending to be stupid pay millions of dollars to produce a movie in which they beat up Jet Li? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfS9Uf5SKu8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfS9Uf5SKu8
  - toast0 7y ago
    If you've got tens of billions, it's goofy to spend millions on silly projects, not stupid. If you've only got a couple million, it's probably stupid to pay most of it to make a silly project (unless you can sell the results?)

owens99 7y ago

I highly doubt your point of view on this. Can you provide any evidence?

logicchains 7y ago
This is the man who paid to make a movie of himself beating up Jet Li (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfS9Uf5SKu8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfS9Uf5SKu8), the man who showed up to an annual company event dressed as Michael Jackson and dancing Thriller (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31pwCOSVS0g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31pwCOSVS0g). If you really think he believes that the "love quotient" is the future of humanity, I've got a bridge to sell you. In Mainland China to get ahead you need to learn to say a bunch of stuff that nobody believes in, e.g. Maozedong Thought in high school/uni exams. Like political correctness in the West, except few people take it seriously. Ma's points were an example of this: focus on education, focus on AI helping us understand ourselves, focus on growing creativity, focus on what we can do to help the Earth, focus on automation freeing up more time for leisure. Non-controversial platitudes that nobody can really disagree with (at least not in China). Musk completely misses this, and goes out saying all kind of stuff about aliens, superintelligent robots and "biological bootloaders" that sounds completely bonkers to somebody not caught up in the hype (or somebody who actually works with ML). Ma catches on to this and has a field day hamming up his presentation, realising that this game is something Musk is completely incapable of playing. Just imagine how absurd it would be if somebody stood up at Party Congress and started talking about aliens; that person certainly wouldn't be presenting at the next Congress to say the least.

kkarakk 7y ago

i hate to do this but this sounds exactly like jack ma is the personification of the "i was only pretending to be stupid" meme that is rampant in online culture

logicchains 7y ago
Would someone who was only pretending to be stupid pay millions of dollars to produce a movie in which they beat up Jet Li? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfS9Uf5SKu8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfS9Uf5SKu8
- toast0 7y ago
  If you've got tens of billions, it's goofy to spend millions on silly projects, not stupid. If you've only got a couple million, it's probably stupid to pay most of it to make a silly project (unless you can sell the results?)