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What if 5 people want to go to different places at the same time?
by rubbingalcohol 7y ago
What if 5 people want to go to different places at the same time?
- ollie87 7y agoDoesn't have to be 5, you would model it and adjust.
- dagw 7y agoThen you'll just end up introducing more and more taxis until you're back to where you started.
- lm28469 7y agoYou'll never get back where you started since most cars are parked in front of an office / house / whatever 95% of the time using space for no reason whereas taxis are always moving.
- JoeAltmaier 7y agoWhat you gain in parking, you lose in congestion. Now most trips are 'deadheading' where the trip to pick up the passenger is as long as the trip the passenger wants to take. Doubles traffic, approximately?
- em-bee 7y agoi think this was even discussed here at HN some time ago, in some cities it apparently was cheaper to drive a car in circles than to pay for parking.
- UnpossibleJim 7y agoThere was, when the mention of Tesla's auto pilot was being discussed, I believe.
- dagw 7y agowhereas taxis are always moving. Moving cars are the problem, since they are what causes congestion and accidents. Cars sitting in parking garages don't run over people or cause traffic jams.
- adrianN 7y agoIn Berlin most cars sit on the road not in parking garages, blocking two lanes of every street.
- lm28469 7y agoThey wait 10 min instead of moving a cumulated 10 tons of steel to displace 250kg of meat. I know, "that's insane!", right ?
- rubbingalcohol 7y agoIt's not "insane," just poorly thought out.
- lm28469 7y ago> poorly thought out. Compared to dumping metric tons of toxic gases and particles right next to where we live/work/sleep as well as moving 2 tons vehicles to displace 1 person ? Using 50% of the streets to park cars that move 30 min per days ? Just because we're used to something doesn't make it less insanely dumb. ICE / personal cars would never be allowed if created today.
- rubbingalcohol 7y agoI sympathize. I commute on a bike and wish more people would do it. The reality, however, is that cities are built around personal transportation being a thing. What you've suggested is just shoehorning something in (centralized government-run personal transportation) apparently without any thought of how it would actually impact commute time traffic, or whether other infrastructure enhancements would be more ideal. For public transit to work it has to scale to the number of people who actually need it. In most cities it does not. Adding electric taxis at a ratio of 1 to 5 commuters makes absolutely zero sense. Adding electric taxis at a ratio of 5 to 5 commuters still makes no sense. It's just a dumb idea.
- lm28469 7y agoWe both can't backup our claims with real data but I feel like what we have right now is the worst possible solution in almost every aspects. Personal cars, personal insurances, personal parking spots, none of that make sense. It's a massive waste of resource, money and space that has a gigantic effect on everyone living in a city. It would also be a huge incentive for people to start looking into other types of transportation.
- em-bee 7y agothe comparison is 10000 people going to 10000 different places vs 10000 people going to 2000 different places. i can't say which number is realistic, but i think it is safe to say that the number of destinations is less than the number of people traveling.
- mensetmanusman 7y agoThey just wait longer and spend more times on their phones waiting.