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' The “majority of US residents” have private healthcare and don’t have student loans. ' Please cite your sources. I'd be very interested to dig into this dat
by smn1234 7y ago
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The “majority of US residents” have private healthcare and don’t have student loans.
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Please cite your sources. I'd be very interested to dig into this data.
- rayiner 7y agohttps://www.census.gov/library/publications/2018/demo/p60-264.html https://www.census.gov/library/publications/2018/demo/p60-26... 2/3 of people who don’t have Medicare have employer-paid insurance. Or put another way 73% have either Medicare or employer paid insurance. (Obviously Medicare isn’t private healthcare, but the two groups are for the most part mutually exclusive.) The remained are for the most part covered by Medicaid or through direct purchase. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/student-loan-statistics-2019-n997836 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/student-loan-statistics... 20% of adults have student loan debt.
- Retric 7y agoI don’t think you can reasonably include public insurance when considering if private insurance is widespread enough. Presumably the heath of the private system is based on people outside of the public one with vs without adequate insurance. 15 percent of the U.S. population get Medicare. 19 percent of the population get Medicaid. So, the government subsidies heathcare for ~34% of the population. And that’s excluding prisoners and VA which make up ~0.5% and 10% of the population, but may overlap with the above. Further the government also pays insurance for government workers and their families, or other special programs that subsidize heathcare costs like Ryan White or various rural heathcare initiatives.
- tptacek 7y agoSo, like he said, a majority of Americans have health care, even with your contorted definitions.
- Retric 7y agoTwo questions. Saying the majority as in over 50.01% of the population has insurance is a very low bar. What percentage of the population without healthcare is a sign of a well functioning system to you? Second, what suggest public funds going to heathcare is a sign of a well functioning private insurance model?
- tptacek 7y agoThe reality is that by your own numbers you came up with a supermajority of US residents with health insurance, not 50.01%.
- Retric 7y agoGreat punt, but that just means you don’t want to answer the question. Also, significantly less than 50% of the population has completely non publicly funded heathcare. It’s a really odd system when you start breaking down the numbers. We have surprisingly close to a 50/50 public private system, but people get wildly different amounts of public funding.
- tptacek 7y agoI do not, no, because I joined this part of the thread solely to point out that your rebuttal to Rayiner refuted itself, which, of course, it did.
- Retric 7y agoNot really, Raynor said: 2/3 of people who don’t have Medicare So he was excluding some but not all people who received government funded insurance. Which is why I was pointing out that was a very odd way of counting.