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Vaping is not more deadly than smoking cigarettes.

by sdinsn 7y ago

Kiro 7y ago
We'll see.
- chroma 7y ago
  Are you willing to bet money on that? I'm willing to bet any amount up to 1 BTC (≈10,000 USD) that in the next decade, there will not be a year in which the CDC attributes more deaths to vaping than smoking. I'm also willing to bet on similar statements that would be true if vaping is more harmful than smoking. If you want, we can find a neutral arbiter to determine the outcome of our predictions, though they may want a percentage of the stakes.
  - Kiro 7y ago
    https://edition.cnn.com/2019/09/11/health/vaping-lung-illness-illinois-teen-profile/index.html https://edition.cnn.com/2019/09/11/health/vaping-lung-illnes...
    - chroma 7y ago
      > Eventually, Adam said that he went from vaping over-the-counter e-liquids to vaping THC or tetrahydrocannabinol, which is the main psychoactive component of marijuana. Adam would get the THC from "a friend" or dealer. Over time, Adam said that he developed shivers and couldn't control them. Then, the vomiting began. A very small number of people are getting sick and dying because they're vaping black market THC cartridges. Most vapers are doing nicotine, and they're buying Juuls and other brand name products that are much safer than smoking. I ask again: Are you willing to bet money that the CDC will attribute more deaths to vaping than smoking (or some similar statement that would be true if vaping was deadlier than smoking)? If you're so sure you're right, why don't you take my money?
- sdinsn 7y ago
  Do you not understand how deadly cigarettes are? ~34 million people smoke cigarettes in the US. US deaths from smoking is ~500k/yr. Meanwhile, over 10 million vape in the US. US deaths from vaping is... only 5 people since vaping existed? And those deaths are likely from vaping juice that contains oils, rather than standard vape juice.

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Vaping is not more deadly than smoking cigarettes.

by sdinsn 7y ago

Vaping is not more deadly than smoking cigarettes.

Kiro 7y ago
We'll see.
- chroma 7y ago
  Are you willing to bet money on that? I'm willing to bet any amount up to 1 BTC (≈10,000 USD) that in the next decade, there will not be a year in which the CDC attributes more deaths to vaping than smoking. I'm also willing to bet on similar statements that would be true if vaping is more harmful than smoking. If you want, we can find a neutral arbiter to determine the outcome of our predictions, though they may want a percentage of the stakes.
  - Kiro 7y ago
    https://edition.cnn.com/2019/09/11/health/vaping-lung-illness-illinois-teen-profile/index.html https://edition.cnn.com/2019/09/11/health/vaping-lung-illnes...
    - chroma 7y ago
      > Eventually, Adam said that he went from vaping over-the-counter e-liquids to vaping THC or tetrahydrocannabinol, which is the main psychoactive component of marijuana. Adam would get the THC from "a friend" or dealer. Over time, Adam said that he developed shivers and couldn't control them. Then, the vomiting began. A very small number of people are getting sick and dying because they're vaping black market THC cartridges. Most vapers are doing nicotine, and they're buying Juuls and other brand name products that are much safer than smoking. I ask again: Are you willing to bet money that the CDC will attribute more deaths to vaping than smoking (or some similar statement that would be true if vaping was deadlier than smoking)? If you're so sure you're right, why don't you take my money?
- sdinsn 7y ago
  Do you not understand how deadly cigarettes are? ~34 million people smoke cigarettes in the US. US deaths from smoking is ~500k/yr. Meanwhile, over 10 million vape in the US. US deaths from vaping is... only 5 people since vaping existed? And those deaths are likely from vaping juice that contains oils, rather than standard vape juice.