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Reminds me of the lines from the song Big Yellow Taxi, "They took all the trees and put them in a tree museum and charged the people a dollar and a half to see

by spodek 7y ago

Reminds me of the lines from the song Big Yellow Taxi, "They took all the trees and put them in a tree museum and charged the people a dollar and a half to see them," and "They paved paradise and put up a parking lot." I like that they're doing this. I wish our system wasn't at the same time burning so many leaves in the Amazon and all over that were helping us already.

Chris_Chambers 7y ago
What a worthless comment. You just loosely used the headline as an excuse to blurt out whatever random incoherent thought crosses your mind. For an example of an actual good comment, look at the question dpflan asked. Now consider how rude you’re being by exploiting the semi-chronological ordering of the comments on HN to bury his comment. It’s really sickening how some people love the sound of their own voice so much that they’re willing to sacrifice common sense etiquette and make the world a worse place just to be heard. Now that I’ve pointed all of this out, if you were a decent person then you’d delete your comment. But you won’t.
- kjeetgill 7y ago
  While I really agree with what you're saying though I think you're falling into the same trap a bit. If you can be civil I think you'd have convinced others to agree with you. If you can't: Downvote, flag, and we move on.
- wdhilliard 7y ago
  This comment is boldly presumptuous. I could argue that you love the feeling of superiority and righteous indignation so much that you completely disregard general etiquette when speaking with other people. Your disrespect and lack of empathy make the world a far worse place. If you were a decent person, you would apologize for not taking your medication this morning.
  - dang 7y ago
    Please don't reply to an egregious comment by breaking the site guidelines yourself. That only makes this place worse. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- blackflame7000 7y ago
  For the record, once you reply you prevent him from deleting his comment.
em3rgent0rdr 7y ago
On the otherhand, if us humans can make a replacement for trees which aren't susceptible to fire, which acts as as better carbon sink, and which more effectively produces useful stuff for us, then it isn't necessarily bad for us to replace trees with artificial ones.
- primroot 7y ago
  "Losing patience, he sent the message: You are advised to submit without further delay, for if I bring my army into your land, I will destroy your farms, slay your people, and raze your city. The Spartan ephors again replied with a single word: If." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laconic_phrase https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laconic_phrase
- TeMPOraL 7y ago
  And like often, the correct question is: why not both? Why not have trees and artificial trees, especially if the latter can be optimized for carbon sequestration and/or industrial-scale production of medicine?
- parksy 7y ago
  Depends on your definition of "bad." There are countless species of tree, shrub, grass, and moss in a typical forest. Also, fungi, bacteria, birds, reptiles, mammals, insects, arachnids. In the rivers, lakes and streams within a forest ecosystem there's countless fish, crustaceans, algae, plankton. If we "replace" the trees, perhaps through fire, then we lose the biodiversity that comes with them. The biodiversity is a naturally balanced system with finely interweaved chemical processes that mutually support the whole. We lose the trees, we lose everything that comes with them and end up with desert. A desert world covered in plastic "trees" is not the future I want for my children, and I am sure many would agree.
  - tripletmass 7y ago
    Right, the Never-Never of Australia has in the past offered license to a venture hoping to make much of that desert's temperature swings and day insolation, loping off the train and eventually (4mos.) faltering when the human maintainer looked best [they felt isolated and things broke.] 10.1016@j.joule.2019.07.010.pdf nominates it (and The Sahara) to host Radiative Cooling (e.g. blown film er, tents or such) to buy us time to fix the full 20+ gigatons of carbon a year. It would lower risks to the photocatalytic and other green process chemical and pharma. efforts nearby. Indeed it's probably more attractive to make antimalarial drugs than to photoproduce ozone for use on catalysts to treat sewage (on N-doped MoO2 substrate, say.) Straps are necessary for the boot...good speed.

by spodek 7y ago

Chris_Chambers 7y ago

What a worthless comment. You just loosely used the headline as an excuse to blurt out whatever random incoherent thought crosses your mind. For an example of an actual good comment, look at the question dpflan asked. Now consider how rude you’re being by exploiting the semi-chronological ordering of the comments on HN to bury his comment. It’s really sickening how some people love the sound of their own voice so much that they’re willing to sacrifice common sense etiquette and make the world a worse place just to be heard. Now that I’ve pointed all of this out, if you were a decent person then you’d delete your comment. But you won’t.

kjeetgill 7y ago
While I really agree with what you're saying though I think you're falling into the same trap a bit. If you can be civil I think you'd have convinced others to agree with you. If you can't: Downvote, flag, and we move on.
wdhilliard 7y ago
This comment is boldly presumptuous. I could argue that you love the feeling of superiority and righteous indignation so much that you completely disregard general etiquette when speaking with other people. Your disrespect and lack of empathy make the world a far worse place. If you were a decent person, you would apologize for not taking your medication this morning.
- dang 7y ago
  Please don't reply to an egregious comment by breaking the site guidelines yourself. That only makes this place worse. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
blackflame7000 7y ago
For the record, once you reply you prevent him from deleting his comment.

em3rgent0rdr 7y ago

On the otherhand, if us humans can make a replacement for trees which aren't susceptible to fire, which acts as as better carbon sink, and which more effectively produces useful stuff for us, then it isn't necessarily bad for us to replace trees with artificial ones.

primroot 7y ago
"Losing patience, he sent the message: You are advised to submit without further delay, for if I bring my army into your land, I will destroy your farms, slay your people, and raze your city. The Spartan ephors again replied with a single word: If." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laconic_phrase https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laconic_phrase
TeMPOraL 7y ago
And like often, the correct question is: why not both? Why not have trees and artificial trees, especially if the latter can be optimized for carbon sequestration and/or industrial-scale production of medicine?
parksy 7y ago
Depends on your definition of "bad." There are countless species of tree, shrub, grass, and moss in a typical forest. Also, fungi, bacteria, birds, reptiles, mammals, insects, arachnids. In the rivers, lakes and streams within a forest ecosystem there's countless fish, crustaceans, algae, plankton. If we "replace" the trees, perhaps through fire, then we lose the biodiversity that comes with them. The biodiversity is a naturally balanced system with finely interweaved chemical processes that mutually support the whole. We lose the trees, we lose everything that comes with them and end up with desert. A desert world covered in plastic "trees" is not the future I want for my children, and I am sure many would agree.
- tripletmass 7y ago
  Right, the Never-Never of Australia has in the past offered license to a venture hoping to make much of that desert's temperature swings and day insolation, loping off the train and eventually (4mos.) faltering when the human maintainer looked best [they felt isolated and things broke.] 10.1016@j.joule.2019.07.010.pdf nominates it (and The Sahara) to host Radiative Cooling (e.g. blown film er, tents or such) to buy us time to fix the full 20+ gigatons of carbon a year. It would lower risks to the photocatalytic and other green process chemical and pharma. efforts nearby. Indeed it's probably more attractive to make antimalarial drugs than to photoproduce ozone for use on catalysts to treat sewage (on N-doped MoO2 substrate, say.) Straps are necessary for the boot...good speed.