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I have a hard time believing it was. iTunes search is wicked bad and has been since day 1. After they started allowing tags for apps it got worse, which is an i

I have a hard time believing it was. iTunes search is wicked bad and has been since day 1. After they started allowing tags for apps it got worse, which is an impressive achievement.

panpanna 7y ago
Note how this doesn't affect apples own apps?
yoz-y 7y ago
Judging from the sheer number of "ASO" companies that contacted me the week I put out an app on the store, I believe that the main problem is mainly really bad spam control.
- saagarjha 7y ago
  Yeah, companies frequently put their competitors' names in their keywords. Not going to name any names, but it's particularly bad in the ride sharing industry.
Fnoord 7y ago
Play Store search is also (still) notoriously bad. Even if it is a 1:1 hit, it does not show that as first entry. And it is full with malware.
- tombrossman 7y ago
  The advantage to using Google Play is that apps containing ads are clearly labelled as such. Apple won't tell you this in advance. (This was my biggest surprise, recently switching from Android after the CopperheadOS meltdown)
  - Fnoord 7y ago
    Honestly I care less about ads and more about trackers. Google Play says nada about trackers. Exodus project (and therefore F-Droid) does. If you come from CopperheadOS I can recommend /e/ or LineageOS + microG (/e/ also contains microG). microG does not implement GAds. You will still need to block trackers though.
    - ajscanlan 7y ago
      Does the iOS App Store mention if an app uses trackers?
      - saagarjha 7y ago
        Nope. I would expect it to be difficult to analyze for that, at least with the amount of effort Apple is currently putting into App Store review.
    - tombrossman 7y ago
      I agree with you about the trackers, but I just assume ads=tracking. I cannot see any app marketplace saying their apps contain tracking in the main description (it's always buried in the fine print). My understanding is that GrapheneOS[0] is the successor to CopperheadOS, and I think that's what I'll try next. There isn't an Exodus Privacy or F-Droid for iOS and these are sorely missed. [0]https://grapheneos.org/ https://grapheneos.org/
    - klingonopera 7y ago
      Holy crap, how have I never heard of microG? Thank you!
lern_too_spel 7y ago
How can you put iMovie above Spotify in a search results for "music" without putting your thumb on the ranker?

I have a hard time believing it was. iTunes search is wicked bad and has been since day 1. After they started allowing tags for apps it got worse, which is an impressive achievement.

panpanna 7y ago

Note how this doesn't affect apples own apps?

yoz-y 7y ago

Judging from the sheer number of "ASO" companies that contacted me the week I put out an app on the store, I believe that the main problem is mainly really bad spam control.

saagarjha 7y ago
Yeah, companies frequently put their competitors' names in their keywords. Not going to name any names, but it's particularly bad in the ride sharing industry.

Fnoord 7y ago

Play Store search is also (still) notoriously bad. Even if it is a 1:1 hit, it does not show that as first entry. And it is full with malware.

tombrossman 7y ago
The advantage to using Google Play is that apps containing ads are clearly labelled as such. Apple won't tell you this in advance. (This was my biggest surprise, recently switching from Android after the CopperheadOS meltdown)
- Fnoord 7y ago
  Honestly I care less about ads and more about trackers. Google Play says nada about trackers. Exodus project (and therefore F-Droid) does. If you come from CopperheadOS I can recommend /e/ or LineageOS + microG (/e/ also contains microG). microG does not implement GAds. You will still need to block trackers though.
  - ajscanlan 7y ago
    Does the iOS App Store mention if an app uses trackers?
    - saagarjha 7y ago
      Nope. I would expect it to be difficult to analyze for that, at least with the amount of effort Apple is currently putting into App Store review.
  - tombrossman 7y ago
    I agree with you about the trackers, but I just assume ads=tracking. I cannot see any app marketplace saying their apps contain tracking in the main description (it's always buried in the fine print). My understanding is that GrapheneOS[0] is the successor to CopperheadOS, and I think that's what I'll try next. There isn't an Exodus Privacy or F-Droid for iOS and these are sorely missed. [0]https://grapheneos.org/ https://grapheneos.org/
  - klingonopera 7y ago
    Holy crap, how have I never heard of microG? Thank you!

lern_too_spel 7y ago

How can you put iMovie above Spotify in a search results for "music" without putting your thumb on the ranker?