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I just feel that most interviewers when pressed on these are just going to lie unless the company truly does it, which will make it hard to tell whose telling t

I just feel that most interviewers when pressed on these are just going to lie unless the company truly does it, which will make it hard to tell whose telling the truth. I guess that's what the whole interview is, detect who is telling the truth about themselves. I think more detail on these questions, and to press on follow ups for specific examples.

SamBam 7y ago
I think the nice thing about the "tell me about a time when..."-style questions is that it makes it harder to lie, or at least harder top lie believably. None of the interviewers will bat an eyelid answering "do you value developer growth" with a one-word lie "yes," but I think most interviewers would feel uncomfortable making up a story whole-cloth, and that would show. The risk, of course, is that you'll seem rude and high-handed asking interviewer-style questions yourself. If you have the upper hand (the job market is hot and they need you more than you need them), that's fine, otherwise not so good.
- denton-scratch 7y ago
  Yes. I love the table-turning style of these questions; but the fact is, they can always answer "No, we can't think of any such examples. Are you going to walk away from the job?" That is to say, hiring is usually a buyer's market.
  - flatline 7y ago
    In the tech industry it’s very cyclical. It’s hard to hire anyone right now.
  - muttled 7y ago
    If that's their answer to something you would want in a company, it's probably way better to find out before you accept.
  - Jolter 7y ago
    We spent all spring trying to hire two engineers. It's not a buyer's market right now, at least not in my town.
  - zymhan 7y ago
    > That is to say, hiring is usually a buyer's market. In the US, in the tech industry, right now? That's not even close to true.
- karmelapple 7y ago
  Maybe I’m weird, but I wouldn’t find a question like that rude. I’d think the interviewee is very thoughtful, and is pretty darn interested in our company if they took the time to think that up. (even if it’s a canned question)
- korethr 7y ago
  It seems to me that offense at such questions being asked back is itself an indication of a misunderstanding of the meaning of the word "interview". The "inter-" part of the word denotes mutuality or reciprocity[1], that the questions and answers go both ways, so both parties may learn more about each other. An interview is not supposed to be solely an inquisition wherein the potential employer evaluates the applicants worthiness of the privilege of employment. It's supposed to be an exchange wherein both evaluate if this is a mutually beneficial business deal. And if a company considers it rude for you to want it to be anything other than a one-way inquisition of you, I think that's an indicator that management culture at that company will make for a work environment that's more stressful and less fulfilling than the rose-tinted one they present in the interview. An aside, I say the above now, but damn, I wish I'd had understood it 10 years ago. 1. https://www.dictionary.com/browse/inter- https://www.dictionary.com/browse/inter-
  - aintnoprophet 7y ago
    I agree. It took me a long time to learn that I'm interviewing them as much as the other way around. I learned a lot watching football (soccer) and the behavior of players with respect to their contracts. They are paid up front for services they are expected to provide. Sometimes their salary is low but they agree to high performance bonus. In the past my attitude was that I just want a job that pays the most money. I was taught in school how to interview. But, I learned that there is more to it.
- fma 7y ago
  One of my go to question is "When is the last time you had to work over the weekend". This will help you determine if projects are mismanaged, how stable their prod environment is...etc
grogenaut 7y ago
Asking these questions a lot in interviews to candidates most people lie by either talking in generalities, or back off and are honest like "were going through that now" both give you an answer. I have not asked this directly in an interview but my normal tactic is to have lunch with the engineers and no manager which gets you lots of examples.
- ChuckNorris89 7y ago
  How do you get to have lunch with the engineers before joining the company?
  - ticmasta 7y ago
    We often (twice in the past 3-4 months) sent desirable prospective hires for coffee with a current employee to allay some of their fears. Both accepted jobs shortly after this, and likey would not have if we didn't give them relatively "unfettered" access to the real deal.
  - astura 7y ago
    Sometimes sending the interviewee to lunch with potential co-workers is an optional part of the interview. I've been on many such lunches (mostly as a potential co-worker, only once as an interviewee) Obviously, it's up to management if they want this to be a part of the interview.
    - grogenaut 7y ago
      definitely is but I've found that if the manager wants the hire (esp post the company deciding to move forward with an offer), then you have leverage and this is a very sane ask.
  - grogenaut 7y ago
    you tell the hiring manager that you want to do that and make it part of the hire. If you're in town you do it a separate day.

SamBam 7y ago

I think the nice thing about the "tell me about a time when..."-style questions is that it makes it harder to lie, or at least harder top lie believably. None of the interviewers will bat an eyelid answering "do you value developer growth" with a one-word lie "yes," but I think most interviewers would feel uncomfortable making up a story whole-cloth, and that would show. The risk, of course, is that you'll seem rude and high-handed asking interviewer-style questions yourself. If you have the upper hand (the job market is hot and they need you more than you need them), that's fine, otherwise not so good.

denton-scratch 7y ago
Yes. I love the table-turning style of these questions; but the fact is, they can always answer "No, we can't think of any such examples. Are you going to walk away from the job?" That is to say, hiring is usually a buyer's market.
- flatline 7y ago
  In the tech industry it’s very cyclical. It’s hard to hire anyone right now.
- muttled 7y ago
  If that's their answer to something you would want in a company, it's probably way better to find out before you accept.
- Jolter 7y ago
  We spent all spring trying to hire two engineers. It's not a buyer's market right now, at least not in my town.
- zymhan 7y ago
  > That is to say, hiring is usually a buyer's market. In the US, in the tech industry, right now? That's not even close to true.
karmelapple 7y ago
Maybe I’m weird, but I wouldn’t find a question like that rude. I’d think the interviewee is very thoughtful, and is pretty darn interested in our company if they took the time to think that up. (even if it’s a canned question)
korethr 7y ago
It seems to me that offense at such questions being asked back is itself an indication of a misunderstanding of the meaning of the word "interview". The "inter-" part of the word denotes mutuality or reciprocity[1], that the questions and answers go both ways, so both parties may learn more about each other. An interview is not supposed to be solely an inquisition wherein the potential employer evaluates the applicants worthiness of the privilege of employment. It's supposed to be an exchange wherein both evaluate if this is a mutually beneficial business deal. And if a company considers it rude for you to want it to be anything other than a one-way inquisition of you, I think that's an indicator that management culture at that company will make for a work environment that's more stressful and less fulfilling than the rose-tinted one they present in the interview. An aside, I say the above now, but damn, I wish I'd had understood it 10 years ago. 1. https://www.dictionary.com/browse/inter- https://www.dictionary.com/browse/inter-
- aintnoprophet 7y ago
  I agree. It took me a long time to learn that I'm interviewing them as much as the other way around. I learned a lot watching football (soccer) and the behavior of players with respect to their contracts. They are paid up front for services they are expected to provide. Sometimes their salary is low but they agree to high performance bonus. In the past my attitude was that I just want a job that pays the most money. I was taught in school how to interview. But, I learned that there is more to it.
fma 7y ago
One of my go to question is "When is the last time you had to work over the weekend". This will help you determine if projects are mismanaged, how stable their prod environment is...etc

grogenaut 7y ago

Asking these questions a lot in interviews to candidates most people lie by either talking in generalities, or back off and are honest like "were going through that now" both give you an answer. I have not asked this directly in an interview but my normal tactic is to have lunch with the engineers and no manager which gets you lots of examples.

ChuckNorris89 7y ago
How do you get to have lunch with the engineers before joining the company?
- ticmasta 7y ago
  We often (twice in the past 3-4 months) sent desirable prospective hires for coffee with a current employee to allay some of their fears. Both accepted jobs shortly after this, and likey would not have if we didn't give them relatively "unfettered" access to the real deal.
- astura 7y ago
  Sometimes sending the interviewee to lunch with potential co-workers is an optional part of the interview. I've been on many such lunches (mostly as a potential co-worker, only once as an interviewee) Obviously, it's up to management if they want this to be a part of the interview.
  - grogenaut 7y ago
    definitely is but I've found that if the manager wants the hire (esp post the company deciding to move forward with an offer), then you have leverage and this is a very sane ask.
- grogenaut 7y ago
  you tell the hiring manager that you want to do that and make it part of the hire. If you're in town you do it a separate day.