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The same reason young, social media savvy altrighters in the west dog-whistle. There's parallels in HK nativism behind these protests similar to your familiar a

The same reason young, social media savvy altrighters in the west dog-whistle. There's parallels in HK nativism behind these protests similar to your familiar altright talking points. A bunch of mainland immigrants "locusts" to HK to buy up real estate and perverting civilized colonial values. At the end of the day, it's a bunch of ignorant kids stewing over lost economic and social privileges and reminiscing about an era they never experienced and realities that never existed. They dress up the root of dissatisfaction as a noble pursuit for suffrage because they are naive students who got radicalized on semester of liberal studies informed by western textbooks without understanding greater economic / geopolitical ground truths. 40 years ago, while mainland was still agrarian, HK had an industrial base and competitive advantage that supported a working class. Then Detroit happened to HK, and the only socially and economically "valuable" people left are tycoons and bankers. Now you have a generation of kids trying to subsist in one of the most inequitable cities in the world, too stubborn to pursue all the opportunities afforded to them in exploding mainland sectors where their English proficiency and western cultural connections will give them huge advantages. Instead they live with their parents in tiny apartments with nothing better to do but protest destructively while utilizing their valuable English skills and cultural competencies to brigade western social media in a counterproductive effort to hold off the increasing irrelevance of their city state like living in a world class / Chinese tier1 city is a birthright.

intertextuality 7y ago
Or you know, they could be protesting HK law being totally subverted with the new extradition bill. This comment is extremely pro-China.
tmwporiejdjr 7y ago
> The same reason young, social media savvy altrighters in the west dog-whistle. There's parallels in HK nativism behind these protests similar to your familiar altright talking points. Yeah I stopped reading after this. The only person talking like an alt-right is you. The fact that you think Hk people think mainlander are “locust” reflects a lot about your perspective and upbringing. In fact, I have only heard mainlanders on the streets calling these protesters “cockroaches”. Not the other way around. I am neither pro or against these protestors. I hope you seek the help you need. Mental health is no joke.
- dirtyid 7y ago
  >The fact that you think Hk people think mainlander are “locust” reflects a lot about your perspective and upbringing. Yes it is a fact [1], facts are useful when discussing topics. This is a well publicized event that reflects HK/mainland dynamics since handover. Only ignorant people discount HK nativism when trying to understand the context of protests in the city. >I am neither pro or against these protestors. I believe you, you're just ignorant - only an uninformed person would claim "only heard mainlanders on the streets calling these protesters “cockroaches”, let alone confidently claim it as fact. The animosity between HK and mainland is not exactly a mystery phenomenon. This is 101 level material. >I hope you seek help you need. Mental health is no joke. I hope you seek information, better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt etc etc. Extremely poor showing for a first comment. [1] https://www.scmp.com/article/991355/anger-mainland-visitors-escalates-locust-ad https://www.scmp.com/article/991355/anger-mainland-visitors-... >A row between Hongkongers and mainlanders is reaching boiling point after internet users raised more than HK$100,000 in less than a week to finance a full-page 'anti-locust' advertisement in a Chinese-language newspaper in the city. ... >[Mainlanders] have already crossed our bottom line,' said Yung Jhon, who refused to disclose his real name. 'Why are mainland mothers flooding in to take up resources in public hospitals, getting our benefits and social welfare? Why do mainlanders ... refuse to follow our rules and order? We can't accept that. Nothing alt-righty about that, no siree.
  - throwaw73747 7y ago
    Do you actually read what you write? It’s just hate and more hate. I am so ignorant compare to you. I truly feel bad for you. I hope one day you see the light and learn to control your emotions a bit. Not all 8 million people hate China. One new source does not reflect everyone. As for the rest of your arguments, it’s just you screaming I am ignorant. Good luck with your life.
    - dirtyid 7y ago
      I made an unbiased analysis with not at all controversial facts for any China watcher familiar with the subject. Nowhere did I say 8million HKers hate China, I'm merely acknowledging elements of nativism in HK and conditions that parallel alt-right disenchantment which isn't typically brought up in western filter bubbles. You, reading comprehension fail, claim only mainlanders are xenophobic, reee about how I'm hateful and mentally ill ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
chachachoney 7y ago
I'd rather apply occam's razor to the situation. As a result, I believe the student's own articulated reasons for their dissatisfaction. Also, they're putting their lives and bodies on the line for this, the least we can do is extend them good faith. If you're going to use the analogy of the west's alt-right movement, you need to explain what and who the eastern equivalent entrenched political and financial interests who would benefit from stoking protest/populism amongst the students. Without those components, you're comparing apples to badgers.

intertextuality 7y ago

Or you know, they could be protesting HK law being totally subverted with the new extradition bill. This comment is extremely pro-China.

tmwporiejdjr 7y ago

> The same reason young, social media savvy altrighters in the west dog-whistle. There's parallels in HK nativism behind these protests similar to your familiar altright talking points. Yeah I stopped reading after this. The only person talking like an alt-right is you. The fact that you think Hk people think mainlander are “locust” reflects a lot about your perspective and upbringing. In fact, I have only heard mainlanders on the streets calling these protesters “cockroaches”. Not the other way around. I am neither pro or against these protestors. I hope you seek the help you need. Mental health is no joke.

dirtyid 7y ago
>The fact that you think Hk people think mainlander are “locust” reflects a lot about your perspective and upbringing. Yes it is a fact [1], facts are useful when discussing topics. This is a well publicized event that reflects HK/mainland dynamics since handover. Only ignorant people discount HK nativism when trying to understand the context of protests in the city. >I am neither pro or against these protestors. I believe you, you're just ignorant - only an uninformed person would claim "only heard mainlanders on the streets calling these protesters “cockroaches”, let alone confidently claim it as fact. The animosity between HK and mainland is not exactly a mystery phenomenon. This is 101 level material. >I hope you seek help you need. Mental health is no joke. I hope you seek information, better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt etc etc. Extremely poor showing for a first comment. [1] https://www.scmp.com/article/991355/anger-mainland-visitors-escalates-locust-ad https://www.scmp.com/article/991355/anger-mainland-visitors-... >A row between Hongkongers and mainlanders is reaching boiling point after internet users raised more than HK$100,000 in less than a week to finance a full-page 'anti-locust' advertisement in a Chinese-language newspaper in the city. ... >[Mainlanders] have already crossed our bottom line,' said Yung Jhon, who refused to disclose his real name. 'Why are mainland mothers flooding in to take up resources in public hospitals, getting our benefits and social welfare? Why do mainlanders ... refuse to follow our rules and order? We can't accept that. Nothing alt-righty about that, no siree.
- throwaw73747 7y ago
  Do you actually read what you write? It’s just hate and more hate. I am so ignorant compare to you. I truly feel bad for you. I hope one day you see the light and learn to control your emotions a bit. Not all 8 million people hate China. One new source does not reflect everyone. As for the rest of your arguments, it’s just you screaming I am ignorant. Good luck with your life.
  - dirtyid 7y ago
    I made an unbiased analysis with not at all controversial facts for any China watcher familiar with the subject. Nowhere did I say 8million HKers hate China, I'm merely acknowledging elements of nativism in HK and conditions that parallel alt-right disenchantment which isn't typically brought up in western filter bubbles. You, reading comprehension fail, claim only mainlanders are xenophobic, reee about how I'm hateful and mentally ill ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.

chachachoney 7y ago

I'd rather apply occam's razor to the situation. As a result, I believe the student's own articulated reasons for their dissatisfaction. Also, they're putting their lives and bodies on the line for this, the least we can do is extend them good faith. If you're going to use the analogy of the west's alt-right movement, you need to explain what and who the eastern equivalent entrenched political and financial interests who would benefit from stoking protest/populism amongst the students. Without those components, you're comparing apples to badgers.