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Logic itself is a field of philosophy. As the most fundamental field of human inquiry, philosophy at times even tries to challenge logic itself. (Although this

Logic itself is a field of philosophy. As the most fundamental field of human inquiry, philosophy at times even tries to challenge logic itself. (Although this is rather niche) Anyway, if you're looking for the relevance of philosophy to Computer Science, look no further than to these 5 figures who were self-ascribed mathematicians and philosophers: - Augustus DeMorgan - Rudolph Carnap - Gottlob Frege - Kurt Gödel - George Boole Historically, philosophy has been the home of the study of logics, until there was a shift towards faculties of mathematics in the 19th century. - This is a very typical trend. Newton was a philosopher, his groundbreaking work basically created a new discipline. Generally I would argue that the strict separation of disciplines is hindering understanding. Fundamentally, all studies are related in some ways, and I would argue that with the correct mindset, you can even learn valuable lessons in computer science through the study of literature or history.

crimsonalucard 7y ago
Sure but the categorization is off. Shakespeare is doesn't belong in a computer science textbook anymore than ethics.
- bakuninsbart 7y ago
  I mean, you could use Isabelle/HOL to analyse a passage of Shakespeare, and if done correctly you could probably publish it in CS. If I'm not mistaken, it has been done for legal texts. I haven't read the relevant part of the book yet, but it seems like he's using the Ethics of AI as an example for exactly how Ethics can be relevant to the field of Computer Science, and also as an example on how philosophers actually work. In a course called "Philosophy of Computer Science", this seems quite reasonable.
  - crimsonalucard 7y ago
    Math and cs can be applied to thing outside of the respective fields even in research papers. Math can be used in architecture, this doesn’t mean it’s part of math. Programs can be used to analyze Shakespeare, this doesn’t mean Shakespeare is computer science. Ethics in philosophy is reasonable which leads to my main point. Is philosophy legit? Why is philosophy purporting to be foundational then suddenly talking about ethics?
    - bakuninsbart 7y ago
      Ethics is a field of philosophy. You appear to believe in moral subjectivism, which is at least controversial[1], and probably a minority opinion among ethicists. The fundamental question of ethics "What should we do?" is one of the foundational questions of human existence, so it is quite fitting for the field. Philosophy is pretty much as legit as the people writing the papers and the others peer-reviewing it are. The process obviously isn't empirical, instead you have to very narrowly define your axioms, and then in small steps argue from these axioms until you are at a final, logical conclusion. If your axioms are wrong, then the paper doesn't work. If your arguments are illogical or ambiguous, a peer-researcher will draw holes in it. If I would compare the process with my own field, CS, I would probably compare it to system design. There exist a few fundamental axioms we have to follow, and a few things we want to optimize for. In a lot of cases, through argument it becomes clear which is the best method. In other cases though it is either unclear, or dependent on the priorities you set yourself. [1]https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/moral-anti-realism/ https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/moral-anti-realism/

crimsonalucard 7y ago

Sure but the categorization is off. Shakespeare is doesn't belong in a computer science textbook anymore than ethics.

bakuninsbart 7y ago
I mean, you could use Isabelle/HOL to analyse a passage of Shakespeare, and if done correctly you could probably publish it in CS. If I'm not mistaken, it has been done for legal texts. I haven't read the relevant part of the book yet, but it seems like he's using the Ethics of AI as an example for exactly how Ethics can be relevant to the field of Computer Science, and also as an example on how philosophers actually work. In a course called "Philosophy of Computer Science", this seems quite reasonable.
- crimsonalucard 7y ago
  Math and cs can be applied to thing outside of the respective fields even in research papers. Math can be used in architecture, this doesn’t mean it’s part of math. Programs can be used to analyze Shakespeare, this doesn’t mean Shakespeare is computer science. Ethics in philosophy is reasonable which leads to my main point. Is philosophy legit? Why is philosophy purporting to be foundational then suddenly talking about ethics?
  - bakuninsbart 7y ago
    Ethics is a field of philosophy. You appear to believe in moral subjectivism, which is at least controversial[1], and probably a minority opinion among ethicists. The fundamental question of ethics "What should we do?" is one of the foundational questions of human existence, so it is quite fitting for the field. Philosophy is pretty much as legit as the people writing the papers and the others peer-reviewing it are. The process obviously isn't empirical, instead you have to very narrowly define your axioms, and then in small steps argue from these axioms until you are at a final, logical conclusion. If your axioms are wrong, then the paper doesn't work. If your arguments are illogical or ambiguous, a peer-researcher will draw holes in it. If I would compare the process with my own field, CS, I would probably compare it to system design. There exist a few fundamental axioms we have to follow, and a few things we want to optimize for. In a lot of cases, through argument it becomes clear which is the best method. In other cases though it is either unclear, or dependent on the priorities you set yourself. [1]https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/moral-anti-realism/ https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/moral-anti-realism/