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Yeah, it's not like 12k a year is enough to live on. People on UBI will still need jobs.

• maxerickson 7y ago
  A lot of time people talking about 'basic income' intend the 'basic' to indicate it would be sufficient to cover needs. 12k in the US is not so bad for costs other than healthcare (lots of families of 3 are living on $35,000).
  • leshow 7y ago
    > 12k in the US is not so bad for costs other than healthcare (lots of families of 3 are living on $35,000). Lots may be doing it, but you'd be living in poverty your whole life. There's no way a family of 3 could get by on 35k a year without accumulating debt. 12k hardly covers just your rent in many places in the US
  • dragonwriter 7y ago
    > 12k in the US is not so bad for costs other than healthcare (lots of families of 3 are living on $35,000). Expenses do not scale down linearly with household size.
    • maxerickson 7y ago
      Yes, people depending solely on a $12k basic income might have to, uh, do something like live with other people. Turns out that has a real impact on expenses even when they aren't family.
      • dragonwriter 7y ago
        Yes, living with other low-income, unable-to-afford-to-survive-independently can drive up your expenses considerably.