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Observation = interaction
by ssijak 7y ago
Observation = interaction
- AstralStorm 7y agoBut what kind of interaction? Is it a tensor field? Change of spacetime? Particle mediated? Wavelike? Nonlocal string or brane vibrations? Does it interact with other known fields and particles and in what way? What is its range and speed? Does it work same in very low or very high energies? Does temperature affect it? Does it change at relativistic speeds? Etc. The tool we have to probe it is currently only entanglement and secondarily tunneling. Maybe some calorimetry and charge detection.
- atq2119 7y agoNone of that is a problem if you accept MWI. The mental benefit of MWI is that instead of worrying about both entanglement and observation/wave function collapse, you only need to worry about entanglement because what Copenhagen describes as collapse is really just entanglement of the observed system with the observer.
- username90 7y agoA group of particles can interact without it counting as an observation which is why I mentioned entanglement. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_entanglement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_entanglement
- maze-le 7y agoEntangled particles share a state, they do not interact: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No-communication_theorem https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No-communication_theorem
- username90 7y agoParticles can entangle when they interact, ie they go from not sharing a state to sharing a state. Your link states that wavefunction collapse is random and can thus not be used to communicate information, it doesn't say anything about interactions resulting in shared state.
- atq2119 7y agoI would bet ssijak thinks in MWI, where observation is not a separate thing from interaction and there is no such thing as "counting as an observation" in physical reality. The "observations" that other interpretations cause endless confusion about are simply interactions between the observed system and the observer, but "observed system" and "observer" are concepts without a corresponding physically reality. They're simply labels assigned by humans.
- solinent 7y agoNote that there's no way to observe a particle without some form of entanglement, though.