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Well you usually want to do trail braking where you smoothly let off on the brakes as you start to turn, and then slowly apply the throttle. At least if you are

Well you usually want to do trail braking where you smoothly let off on the brakes as you start to turn, and then slowly apply the throttle. At least if you are racing with relatively normal cars.

sandworm101 7y ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpYU_6pz-44 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpYU_6pz-44 Watch the brake and throttle indicators. He is off the brakes long before committing to the corner. And whenever he is on the brakes it is total. If you gradually move from braking to throttle you will take the turn too sharply. You set the speed before the corner so that during the corner the tires work only on turning. Then you apply the throttle as much as possible on the way out. Braking during the first half of a turn is done for some specific turn geometry (decreasing radius turns, or a car with higher acceleration than braking ability) but is generally a bad habit.
- Shorel 7y ago
  Watch this video, particularly the brake pressure in the last half of the lap: https://youtu.be/eloZhdIyyv0?t=69 https://youtu.be/eloZhdIyyv0?t=69 It is true that the braking plot-line looks a bit like an step function, but it never is, there's a huge difference between taking half a second to press the brake and it being machine-like and taking just some milliseconds. It is even more pronounced when releasing the brake pedal. There you can always see a slope.
  - sandworm101 7y ago
    Ya, slope, not half-way braking. Applying or releasing a pedal smoothly is different than braking at 50%. The pedal always moves quickly between 0 and 100. You don't see the driver braking into some corners at 50% and others at 75%. If the driver only pushes the pedal to 50% and then backs off, that is almost certainly a mistake. Throttle is variable. Braking is all-or-nothing.
    - Shorel 7y ago
      I would argue the pedal was pressed 60%, 30%, 40%, and 80% in the last four pressings. Honestly, watch the video.
- cromulent 7y ago
  The on-screen braking indicator across the halo has been controversial as it doesn't show the various braking pressures - it's either on or off. It's misleading. Trail braking is pretty common I think, especially without anti-lock brakes as in F1. Without it then there would be lockups at every corner as the aero effects reduce with the rapid loss in speed. https://www.brembo.com/en/company/news/formula-1-how-hamilton-brakes https://www.brembo.com/en/company/news/formula-1-how-hamilto...

Well you usually want to do trail braking where you smoothly let off on the brakes as you start to turn, and then slowly apply the throttle. At least if you are racing with relatively normal cars.

sandworm101 7y ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpYU_6pz-44 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpYU_6pz-44 Watch the brake and throttle indicators. He is off the brakes long before committing to the corner. And whenever he is on the brakes it is total. If you gradually move from braking to throttle you will take the turn too sharply. You set the speed before the corner so that during the corner the tires work only on turning. Then you apply the throttle as much as possible on the way out. Braking during the first half of a turn is done for some specific turn geometry (decreasing radius turns, or a car with higher acceleration than braking ability) but is generally a bad habit.

Shorel 7y ago
Watch this video, particularly the brake pressure in the last half of the lap: https://youtu.be/eloZhdIyyv0?t=69 https://youtu.be/eloZhdIyyv0?t=69 It is true that the braking plot-line looks a bit like an step function, but it never is, there's a huge difference between taking half a second to press the brake and it being machine-like and taking just some milliseconds. It is even more pronounced when releasing the brake pedal. There you can always see a slope.
- sandworm101 7y ago
  Ya, slope, not half-way braking. Applying or releasing a pedal smoothly is different than braking at 50%. The pedal always moves quickly between 0 and 100. You don't see the driver braking into some corners at 50% and others at 75%. If the driver only pushes the pedal to 50% and then backs off, that is almost certainly a mistake. Throttle is variable. Braking is all-or-nothing.
  - Shorel 7y ago
    I would argue the pedal was pressed 60%, 30%, 40%, and 80% in the last four pressings. Honestly, watch the video.
cromulent 7y ago
The on-screen braking indicator across the halo has been controversial as it doesn't show the various braking pressures - it's either on or off. It's misleading. Trail braking is pretty common I think, especially without anti-lock brakes as in F1. Without it then there would be lockups at every corner as the aero effects reduce with the rapid loss in speed. https://www.brembo.com/en/company/news/formula-1-how-hamilton-brakes https://www.brembo.com/en/company/news/formula-1-how-hamilto...