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The context here is that Epstein was a convicted sex offender who was widely believed to traffic women into sexual slavery, and sexual slavery is a serious prob

The context here is that Epstein was a convicted sex offender who was widely believed to traffic women into sexual slavery, and sexual slavery is a serious problem in Eastern Europe [1]. The implication is the staff were concerned that Epstein was bringing literal slaves into the office. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_trafficking_in_Europe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_trafficking_in_Europe

breck 7y ago
Gotcha, I don't know the details of the allegations, and whether it was sex slavery or not. I was just giving another data point with a somewhat contrarian view. Thanks for sharing. One nit about the OP, is when any press outlet reports this as a "suicide". At the very least, this should be reported as an "assisted suicide". My infant can't poop without us having video evidence. The odds of this being an individual act given where and who he was are maybe .1%? Only problem is so many people wanted him gone, hard to figure out who helped him.
- WAHa_06x36 7y ago
  Here's a thought: Don't rush in to give "contrarian views" on things you don't know about. That does not help anyone at all.
  - breck 7y ago
    Well one of my best friends and mentors was an “Eastern European model” who I think would be offended by this quote, which can come across as a patronizing attitude. She would say not to judge by appearance, and that perhaps Epstein is helping these women more than these women would. Don’t just a book by its cover.
    - AndrewBissell 7y ago
      Again, we're not talking here about a blanket judgment of "attractive Eastern European women" or even "attractive Eastern European women with a much older man." We're talking about this in the context of them showing up with a man who was a confessed and convicted pedophilic sex trafficker. That's why people were entirely in the right to assume that perhaps they didn't have their full agency in the situation. As a matter of fact one of Epstein's & Ghislaine Maxwell's tactics was to confiscate passports, which could very well have been the case with these women Epstein brought to MIT.
      - breck 7y ago
        I read the article. These "concerned" staff "decided that the assistants would be allowed to accompany Epstein but would wait outside the meeting room." So they didn't allow these two women to participate in the conversation about science! From the facts in the article, it seemed to me they made a judgement about who these 2 women were based upon their appearance. I'm saying read this article with a grain of salt. There's a lot of B.S. in here. Instead of throwing stones at everyone, let's think about what the bigger pictures problem with the system are.

breck 7y ago

Gotcha, I don't know the details of the allegations, and whether it was sex slavery or not. I was just giving another data point with a somewhat contrarian view. Thanks for sharing. One nit about the OP, is when any press outlet reports this as a "suicide". At the very least, this should be reported as an "assisted suicide". My infant can't poop without us having video evidence. The odds of this being an individual act given where and who he was are maybe .1%? Only problem is so many people wanted him gone, hard to figure out who helped him.

WAHa_06x36 7y ago
Here's a thought: Don't rush in to give "contrarian views" on things you don't know about. That does not help anyone at all.
- breck 7y ago
  Well one of my best friends and mentors was an “Eastern European model” who I think would be offended by this quote, which can come across as a patronizing attitude. She would say not to judge by appearance, and that perhaps Epstein is helping these women more than these women would. Don’t just a book by its cover.
  - AndrewBissell 7y ago
    Again, we're not talking here about a blanket judgment of "attractive Eastern European women" or even "attractive Eastern European women with a much older man." We're talking about this in the context of them showing up with a man who was a confessed and convicted pedophilic sex trafficker. That's why people were entirely in the right to assume that perhaps they didn't have their full agency in the situation. As a matter of fact one of Epstein's & Ghislaine Maxwell's tactics was to confiscate passports, which could very well have been the case with these women Epstein brought to MIT.
    - breck 7y ago
      I read the article. These "concerned" staff "decided that the assistants would be allowed to accompany Epstein but would wait outside the meeting room." So they didn't allow these two women to participate in the conversation about science! From the facts in the article, it seemed to me they made a judgement about who these 2 women were based upon their appearance. I'm saying read this article with a grain of salt. There's a lot of B.S. in here. Instead of throwing stones at everyone, let's think about what the bigger pictures problem with the system are.