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The workers are paid over minimum wage. Working conditions might suck, but why is this any different than any small company with poor working conditions?

danharaj 7y ago
Workers of the world unite!
- edoceo 7y ago
  Seize the means of production!
  - seamyb88 7y ago
    The only thing the working classes have to lose are their shackles.
    - inflatableDodo 7y ago
      You can't expect to wield supreme executive power just because some watery tart threw a sword at you.
Pfhreak 7y ago
> why is this any different than any small company with poor working conditions? Because what they manufacture is a weapon that's being exported and used against civilian protesters?
- mieseratte 7y ago
  Couldn’t the HK police buy it from somewhere else? Or domestically produce?
  - sterileopinions 7y ago
    If so, that doesn't excuse American citizens profiting off the suppression of civilians in other countries.
    - mieseratte 7y ago
      > If so, that doesn't excuse American citizens profiting off the suppression of civilians in other countries. If the product can be trivially sourced elsewhere, what's the point? Do you believe it might hurt their image and sales elsewhere? Or is this just a moral line you hold dear?
      - sterileopinions 7y ago
        >If the product can be trivially sourced elsewhere, what's the point To not be complicit in the suppression of people's rights in other countries? What ISN'T the point? >Or is this just a moral line you hold dear Ummm, yeah? Are you going to take the position that your contribution to the suppression of other people for the purposes of profit is justifiable because it'll just happen anyways? That's kind of a really idiotic stance to take.
        mieseratte 7y ago
        Well, that's your opinion to hold, but I'm a bit more realpolitik about things. Unless withholding the materials are likely to damage police operational capability, it's an empty feel-good gesture. > That's kind of a really idiotic stance to take. I would kindly ask you drop the ad hominems.
        sterileopinions 7y ago
        There is nothing practical about your stance though, so you can't really call it realpolitik. You are being overly charitable about how you've arrived at your position. >it's an empty feel-good gesture. Not really, by not continuing trade you lend less credence to the actions of the government. You think you're being intelligent about what's happening here but it's really just a case of you not understanding how actions are perceived by other organizations.

danharaj 7y ago

Workers of the world unite!

edoceo 7y ago
Seize the means of production!
- seamyb88 7y ago
  The only thing the working classes have to lose are their shackles.
  - inflatableDodo 7y ago
    You can't expect to wield supreme executive power just because some watery tart threw a sword at you.

Pfhreak 7y ago

> why is this any different than any small company with poor working conditions? Because what they manufacture is a weapon that's being exported and used against civilian protesters?

mieseratte 7y ago
Couldn’t the HK police buy it from somewhere else? Or domestically produce?
- sterileopinions 7y ago
  If so, that doesn't excuse American citizens profiting off the suppression of civilians in other countries.
  - mieseratte 7y ago
    > If so, that doesn't excuse American citizens profiting off the suppression of civilians in other countries. If the product can be trivially sourced elsewhere, what's the point? Do you believe it might hurt their image and sales elsewhere? Or is this just a moral line you hold dear?
    - sterileopinions 7y ago
      >If the product can be trivially sourced elsewhere, what's the point To not be complicit in the suppression of people's rights in other countries? What ISN'T the point? >Or is this just a moral line you hold dear Ummm, yeah? Are you going to take the position that your contribution to the suppression of other people for the purposes of profit is justifiable because it'll just happen anyways? That's kind of a really idiotic stance to take.
      - mieseratte 7y ago
        Well, that's your opinion to hold, but I'm a bit more realpolitik about things. Unless withholding the materials are likely to damage police operational capability, it's an empty feel-good gesture. > That's kind of a really idiotic stance to take. I would kindly ask you drop the ad hominems.
        sterileopinions 7y ago
        There is nothing practical about your stance though, so you can't really call it realpolitik. You are being overly charitable about how you've arrived at your position. >it's an empty feel-good gesture. Not really, by not continuing trade you lend less credence to the actions of the government. You think you're being intelligent about what's happening here but it's really just a case of you not understanding how actions are perceived by other organizations.