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I don't think that thread shows that Hoffman defended Ito, despite the author's claims. I'm basically willing to take Hoffman's responses at face value. Clearly

I don't think that thread shows that Hoffman defended Ito, despite the author's claims. I'm basically willing to take Hoffman's responses at face value. Clearly there was an ongoing investigation, as demonstrated by Ito's resignation today. When news broke about Ito and Epstein last month, Giriharadas was pretty far down on the list of people who Ito needed to answer to (since he was just part of what I imagine to be a mostly ceremonial award committee.) I see evidence that Hoffman didn't think Giriharadas should be dictating the course of the investigation, but not evidence that Hoffman tried to impede in any way. After all, this same Disobedience award went to #MeToo activists last year... Ultimately, this thread does feel a lot like the author making a dreadful scandal about himself.

bertil 7y ago
> Ultimately, this thread does feel a lot like the author making a dreadful scandal about himself. This is what Hoffman is saying, and it would be very on-brand for Giriharadas to do so.
CrazyStat 7y ago
>Clearly there was an ongoing investigation, as demonstrated by Ito's resignation today. That's not clear at all, at least if you're talking about an investigation conducted or commissioned by MIT. Ito's sudden resignation seems likely to have been prompted by the damning New Yorker article published yesterday. Another commenter posted the email sent out by MIT's president today, which refers to yesterday's New Yorker article and indicates that the university has just commissioned an investigation in reaponse to it.
AndrewBissell 7y ago
This isn't the only dodgy behavior that's been reported about Hoffman in regards to Epstein. It's also been reported that he hosted a well attended party in Silicon Valley where Elon Musk introduced Epstein to Mark Zuckerberg. We will probably not see much more on this thanks to the plutocratic wagon circling that baron_harkonnen talks about, but it's naive to take Hoffman's statements at face value here.
- mrosett 7y ago
  Do you have a source for this?
  - AndrewBissell 7y ago
    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/07/jeffrey-epstein-case-grows-more-grotesque https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/07/jeffrey-epstein-case...

bertil 7y ago

> Ultimately, this thread does feel a lot like the author making a dreadful scandal about himself. This is what Hoffman is saying, and it would be very on-brand for Giriharadas to do so.

CrazyStat 7y ago

>Clearly there was an ongoing investigation, as demonstrated by Ito's resignation today. That's not clear at all, at least if you're talking about an investigation conducted or commissioned by MIT. Ito's sudden resignation seems likely to have been prompted by the damning New Yorker article published yesterday. Another commenter posted the email sent out by MIT's president today, which refers to yesterday's New Yorker article and indicates that the university has just commissioned an investigation in reaponse to it.

AndrewBissell 7y ago

This isn't the only dodgy behavior that's been reported about Hoffman in regards to Epstein. It's also been reported that he hosted a well attended party in Silicon Valley where Elon Musk introduced Epstein to Mark Zuckerberg. We will probably not see much more on this thanks to the plutocratic wagon circling that baron_harkonnen talks about, but it's naive to take Hoffman's statements at face value here.

mrosett 7y ago
Do you have a source for this?
- AndrewBissell 7y ago
  https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/07/jeffrey-epstein-case-grows-more-grotesque https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/07/jeffrey-epstein-case...