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Kudos to India for even trying. While they are trying to put a probe on the moon, we have a President going through dementia arguing about a 2 week old weather

Kudos to India for even trying. While they are trying to put a probe on the moon, we have a President going through dementia arguing about a 2 week old weather forecast.

nicodjimenez 7y ago
While they are trying to put a probe on the moon?? We sent actual people there 50 years ago! And they did not crash on the moon. What do these people all have in common? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_who_have_walked_on_the_Moon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_who_have_walked... They are all American.
- jacobmoe 7y ago
  50 years ago we walked on the moon. This year we're not. _They_ went to the moon, built the interstate system, subway system, etc. _We_ are barely maintaining what we inherited.
  - nicodjimenez 7y ago
    We are maintaining what we inherited just fine. Blue Origin and SpaceX are leading the way on making space actually accessible at a reasonable price. US is doing just fine.
- ultrasounder 7y ago
  Came at a Yuuuuge price. The Appllo program claimed several lives even before the first probe launch. Recommend watching “The First Man” for accurate portrayal. Also the difference in budget between the NASA program and ISRO program is Apples one quarter earnings. Just saying
  - nicodjimenez 7y ago
    When you're rich you can afford the huge price tag.
    - mav3rick 7y ago
      The successful walk had many human lives lost not just money.
    - ultrasounder 7y ago
      I think we are talking past each other. America is always defined by its ability to take bold steps that come at Human costs. It’s written in their DNA. Not that India as a nation is risk averse, but whenever a human life is involved Yes they tend to be conservative. I think that’s what is driving their space program- to make these small incremental steps towards a final goal and they have ways to go before they get there. I personally think that ISRO has come of age and all it needs is some private equity participation to give it a much needed kick in the butt!
  - gingabriska 7y ago
    Comparing budget is useless because America gets best talent from all over the world and America's poor are still better than poor who live in India. It's all relative, imagine if Indian poor population were as well off as American poor population what incentives will others have to study so much and work on space mission? Higher quality life at the bottom is what makes it more expensive to hire better talent. It's not a bad thing.
Mountain_Skies 7y ago
What value do you think your comment added to the discussion?
- PeterStuer 7y ago
  Perspectives on evolution vs. devolution? But agreed, we are digressing.
  - mieseratte 7y ago
    It’s a bit of a false dichotomy, really. It isn’t as if the US is behind on accessing the moon or space in general. Nothing more than distracting partisan virtue signaling.
    - PeterStuer 7y ago
      I was commenting in the context of the original remark. fwiw, personally I'd say the emperors are wearing no clothes on either side of the US polarized partisan divide, but then again I don't think the rest of the world is far behind and catching up fast in the race to the 'post truth' society.
      - mieseratte 7y ago
        And I'm commenting in response to your remark on "devolution." There is none, insofar as I can see. It's a pointless partisan jab not rooted in reality.
        PeterStuer 7y ago
        Well, we are talking forging weather maps with a sharpie, but I'll leave everyone to draw their own conclusions (pun intended).
weiming 7y ago
On the contray, I am looking forward to the Space Force (The President has just unveiled the Space Command.) [1] [1] https://www.economist.com/united-states/2019/09/05/donald-trump-unveils-space-command https://www.economist.com/united-states/2019/09/05/donald-tr...
dang 7y ago
This comment breaks the site guidelines against flamebait. Please don't take HN threads into flamewar. Especially not off-topic partisan flamewar. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Kudos to India for even trying. While they are trying to put a probe on the moon, we have a President going through dementia arguing about a 2 week old weather forecast.

nicodjimenez 7y ago

While they are trying to put a probe on the moon?? We sent actual people there 50 years ago! And they did not crash on the moon. What do these people all have in common? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_who_have_walked_on_the_Moon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_who_have_walked... They are all American.

jacobmoe 7y ago
50 years ago we walked on the moon. This year we're not. _They_ went to the moon, built the interstate system, subway system, etc. _We_ are barely maintaining what we inherited.
- nicodjimenez 7y ago
  We are maintaining what we inherited just fine. Blue Origin and SpaceX are leading the way on making space actually accessible at a reasonable price. US is doing just fine.
ultrasounder 7y ago
Came at a Yuuuuge price. The Appllo program claimed several lives even before the first probe launch. Recommend watching “The First Man” for accurate portrayal. Also the difference in budget between the NASA program and ISRO program is Apples one quarter earnings. Just saying
- nicodjimenez 7y ago
  When you're rich you can afford the huge price tag.
  - mav3rick 7y ago
    The successful walk had many human lives lost not just money.
  - ultrasounder 7y ago
    I think we are talking past each other. America is always defined by its ability to take bold steps that come at Human costs. It’s written in their DNA. Not that India as a nation is risk averse, but whenever a human life is involved Yes they tend to be conservative. I think that’s what is driving their space program- to make these small incremental steps towards a final goal and they have ways to go before they get there. I personally think that ISRO has come of age and all it needs is some private equity participation to give it a much needed kick in the butt!
- gingabriska 7y ago
  Comparing budget is useless because America gets best talent from all over the world and America's poor are still better than poor who live in India. It's all relative, imagine if Indian poor population were as well off as American poor population what incentives will others have to study so much and work on space mission? Higher quality life at the bottom is what makes it more expensive to hire better talent. It's not a bad thing.

Mountain_Skies 7y ago

What value do you think your comment added to the discussion?

PeterStuer 7y ago
Perspectives on evolution vs. devolution? But agreed, we are digressing.
- mieseratte 7y ago
  It’s a bit of a false dichotomy, really. It isn’t as if the US is behind on accessing the moon or space in general. Nothing more than distracting partisan virtue signaling.
  - PeterStuer 7y ago
    I was commenting in the context of the original remark. fwiw, personally I'd say the emperors are wearing no clothes on either side of the US polarized partisan divide, but then again I don't think the rest of the world is far behind and catching up fast in the race to the 'post truth' society.
    - mieseratte 7y ago
      And I'm commenting in response to your remark on "devolution." There is none, insofar as I can see. It's a pointless partisan jab not rooted in reality.
      - PeterStuer 7y ago
        Well, we are talking forging weather maps with a sharpie, but I'll leave everyone to draw their own conclusions (pun intended).

weiming 7y ago

On the contray, I am looking forward to the Space Force (The President has just unveiled the Space Command.) [1] [1] https://www.economist.com/united-states/2019/09/05/donald-trump-unveils-space-command https://www.economist.com/united-states/2019/09/05/donald-tr...

dang 7y ago

This comment breaks the site guidelines against flamebait. Please don't take HN threads into flamewar. Especially not off-topic partisan flamewar. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html