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>I don't think there are even chairs? It isn't that they didn't have chairs, it's that they can't have chairs. The homeless problem in NYC is bad and it just

>I don't think there are even chairs? It isn't that they didn't have chairs, it's that they can't have chairs. The homeless problem in NYC is bad and it just happens subway stops are better than above ground when winter comes. Call it mean, I think it is unfair but homeless people belong elsewhere than the subway.

VWWHFSfQ 7y ago
NYC's homeless problem isn't even as bad as comparatively tiny places like Seattle or Portland where it's completely disgusting and sad. I left Seattle in 2009 and went back for a month last year and the homeless population looked like it had doubled despite so much investment and modernization happening in downtown over the last decade.
- delfinom 7y ago
  Because that investment and modernization drives out the less fortunate onto the streets. Nobody is investing in affordable housing, it's all luxury apartments to sell to foreign buyers and maybe that one kid who made a few million selling his startup. Then they dress up the surronding area to pump their investment's value.
  - javagram 7y ago
    Even on luxury housing the profit margin isn’t great. It isn’t really possible to “invest” in affordable housing without significant government subsidies. After all the difference between a normal apartment building and a luxury one is what? Hiring a concierge and buying a brushed metal fridge for the apartments instead of a white one? It doesn’t actually cost much different.
  - DuskStar 7y ago
    > Nobody is investing in affordable housing, it's all luxury apartments Please, tell me of a city in the US that's built affordable housing within the past 50 years - not luxury housing that got old and thus cheap, and not luxury housing that gets subsidized by the city.
  - bradleyjg 7y ago
    Street homelessness in US cities by and large isn’t about affordability, it’s about the inability and/or unwillingness to either cure or isolate the profoundly mentally ill or addicts that make up the vast majority of persistent street homeless. Homelessness in the broader sense which includes people sleeping on couches or in shelters is much more linked to affordability. Unfortunately there’s not great vocabulary to distinguish among rather distinct issues.
- squeaky-clean 7y ago
  Sure NYC doesn't have the worst homeless problem, but it's still got one. And that's typically the reason for what may seem like otherwise stingy or stupid decisions.
drngdds 7y ago
A bunch of stations do have chairs though.
- amoitnga 7y ago
  seating for 10, while there are hundreds, is barely anything. But I guess at least that's good for people who really need it

VWWHFSfQ 7y ago

NYC's homeless problem isn't even as bad as comparatively tiny places like Seattle or Portland where it's completely disgusting and sad. I left Seattle in 2009 and went back for a month last year and the homeless population looked like it had doubled despite so much investment and modernization happening in downtown over the last decade.

delfinom 7y ago
Because that investment and modernization drives out the less fortunate onto the streets. Nobody is investing in affordable housing, it's all luxury apartments to sell to foreign buyers and maybe that one kid who made a few million selling his startup. Then they dress up the surronding area to pump their investment's value.
- javagram 7y ago
  Even on luxury housing the profit margin isn’t great. It isn’t really possible to “invest” in affordable housing without significant government subsidies. After all the difference between a normal apartment building and a luxury one is what? Hiring a concierge and buying a brushed metal fridge for the apartments instead of a white one? It doesn’t actually cost much different.
- DuskStar 7y ago
  > Nobody is investing in affordable housing, it's all luxury apartments Please, tell me of a city in the US that's built affordable housing within the past 50 years - not luxury housing that got old and thus cheap, and not luxury housing that gets subsidized by the city.
- bradleyjg 7y ago
  Street homelessness in US cities by and large isn’t about affordability, it’s about the inability and/or unwillingness to either cure or isolate the profoundly mentally ill or addicts that make up the vast majority of persistent street homeless. Homelessness in the broader sense which includes people sleeping on couches or in shelters is much more linked to affordability. Unfortunately there’s not great vocabulary to distinguish among rather distinct issues.
squeaky-clean 7y ago
Sure NYC doesn't have the worst homeless problem, but it's still got one. And that's typically the reason for what may seem like otherwise stingy or stupid decisions.

drngdds 7y ago

A bunch of stations do have chairs though.

amoitnga 7y ago
seating for 10, while there are hundreds, is barely anything. But I guess at least that's good for people who really need it