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That's exactly what their plan is -- and if you have experiments enabled, they may have already started sending your DNS queries to Cloudflare.

z3t4 7y ago
I guess thats Mozillas new monetizing strategy, sell user data to cloudflare, and market it as privacy. If you want privacy you better firewall everything your computer want to send to Cloudflare, Akamai, et.al.
- tinus_hn 7y ago
  Good luck with blocking Cloudflare and Akamai and still using the internet.
  - throw0101a 7y ago
    Which is why some people, like Paul Vixie (no DNS dummy, he), think that this is an absolutely terrible idea. Mozilla is now basically dictating policy to organizations.
  - badrabbit 7y ago
    It's not that bad. Done it before. It's as if some sites are more like other paywalled sites.maybe noscript trained me well for it.
- wipseabusbus 7y ago
  >...sell user data to cloudflare... Cloudflare claims they "will never sell your data or use it to target ads." You can read their 1.1.1.1 privacy policies here: https://developers.cloudflare.com/1.1.1.1/commitment-to-privacy/ https://developers.cloudflare.com/1.1.1.1/commitment-to-priv... https://developers.cloudflare.com/1.1.1.1/commitment-to-privacy/privacy-policy/privacy-policy/ https://developers.cloudflare.com/1.1.1.1/commitment-to-priv...
  - zajio1am 7y ago
    That does not say they cannot use it for other purposes.
    - wipseabusbus 7y ago
      It says what they use, how they use it, how they won’t use it, who can use what (APNIC or if required by law), and how long they retain what. Your comment is misleading.
      - throw0101a 7y ago
        And policies never change. There is never a change of management, especially after a company goes public (which CF is planning to do). /s
    - scrollaway 7y ago
      Like what? Fixing bugs in their service?
  - z3t4 7y ago
    Mozilla have a special deal with Cloudflare. According to Mozilla it will give even more privacy. It also seem that there is no money involved? So hopefully Mozilla is not selling DNS like they sell search. But I still think its a bad idea to centralize DNS and send all dns request to one actor, then it becomes very easy for anyone like the US gov to collect the data.
    - z3t4 7y ago
      Then there is also performance. While Cloudflare has great coverage, using your ISP DNS will be much faster, due to it being physically closer in the network and using a more simple protocol.

z3t4 7y ago

I guess thats Mozillas new monetizing strategy, sell user data to cloudflare, and market it as privacy. If you want privacy you better firewall everything your computer want to send to Cloudflare, Akamai, et.al.

tinus_hn 7y ago
Good luck with blocking Cloudflare and Akamai and still using the internet.
- throw0101a 7y ago
  Which is why some people, like Paul Vixie (no DNS dummy, he), think that this is an absolutely terrible idea. Mozilla is now basically dictating policy to organizations.
- badrabbit 7y ago
  It's not that bad. Done it before. It's as if some sites are more like other paywalled sites.maybe noscript trained me well for it.
wipseabusbus 7y ago
>...sell user data to cloudflare... Cloudflare claims they "will never sell your data or use it to target ads." You can read their 1.1.1.1 privacy policies here: https://developers.cloudflare.com/1.1.1.1/commitment-to-privacy/ https://developers.cloudflare.com/1.1.1.1/commitment-to-priv... https://developers.cloudflare.com/1.1.1.1/commitment-to-privacy/privacy-policy/privacy-policy/ https://developers.cloudflare.com/1.1.1.1/commitment-to-priv...
- zajio1am 7y ago
  That does not say they cannot use it for other purposes.
  - wipseabusbus 7y ago
    It says what they use, how they use it, how they won’t use it, who can use what (APNIC or if required by law), and how long they retain what. Your comment is misleading.
    - throw0101a 7y ago
      And policies never change. There is never a change of management, especially after a company goes public (which CF is planning to do). /s
  - scrollaway 7y ago
    Like what? Fixing bugs in their service?
- z3t4 7y ago
  Mozilla have a special deal with Cloudflare. According to Mozilla it will give even more privacy. It also seem that there is no money involved? So hopefully Mozilla is not selling DNS like they sell search. But I still think its a bad idea to centralize DNS and send all dns request to one actor, then it becomes very easy for anyone like the US gov to collect the data.
  - z3t4 7y ago
    Then there is also performance. While Cloudflare has great coverage, using your ISP DNS will be much faster, due to it being physically closer in the network and using a more simple protocol.