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>All of Google's phones. I have a Nexus 6P I got in 2016 running stock Android, never rooted or unlocked. Android version: 8.1.0 Android security patch level:

>All of Google's phones. I have a Nexus 6P I got in 2016 running stock Android, never rooted or unlocked. Android version: 8.1.0 Android security patch level: December 5, 2018. No updates available as of posting this comment.

lern_too_spel 7y ago
You are outside the three year patch window that was explained when you purchased the device. No iPhone 3g is going to get patches either, nor a RHEL version that has reached EOL.
- scarface74 7y ago
  No but the iPhone 5s from 2013 does. Apple’s mobile processor performance increased a lot during the first five years and went 64 bit.
  - lern_too_spel 7y ago
    And the iPhone 4 does not. The point is that every phone eventually stops updating. Unfortunately for iPhones, they update poorly even when they have updates, requiring a reboots to patch highly vulnerable apps like the browser or messaging. If you care about security updates, the best option by far is upgrading to a new fast-updating Android phone every two years.
    - scarface74 7y ago
      So it’s worse to have a reboot to patch than none at all....
      - lern_too_spel 7y ago
        You will never have no patch at all if you upgrade to a new phone regularly as I recommended. It is better to have a patch that doesn't require reboots like an Android browser patch than it is to have a patch that requires a reboot like an iOS browser patch than it is to not have a patch like an old iPhone or Android.
        c0nducktr 7y ago
        Who gives a shit about having to reboot their phone?
        lern_too_spel 7y ago
        The people who leave their devices vulnerable instead of rebooting. Why not require a reboot for updating any app then? Look, I get it. You spent hundreds of dollars on something, and want to feel good about it. On the particular issue of security updates though, it is a poor choice.
        sbuk 7y ago
        Way to build a strawman.
        lern_too_spel 7y ago
        What strawman? Am I arguing a point other than updates? I merely gave a motivation for why GGP ignores the obvious update failures of iOS. By claiming that my argument is a strawman, you are yourself strawmanning.
        sbuk 7y ago
        It’s a strawman because it’s an absurd notion. Much like your tu quoque. You are actually claiming that iOS is inherently insecure because firmware updates require a reboot. You are actually claiming that end users don’t upgrade because of this?! It’s absurd, not to say obtuse. I’m a huge fan of radical candor, so at the risk of reproach, what a stupid hypothesis!
        lern_too_spel 7y ago
        I'm saying that iOS is insecure because it requires reboots for updating your browser. Remember when Windows required that? I have seen plenty of people with reboot notifications on their phone that they ignore for days or even weeks at a time, so no, it is not absurd. Also, you should familiarize yourself with the definition of strawman. It does not a synonym for absurd.

lern_too_spel 7y ago

You are outside the three year patch window that was explained when you purchased the device. No iPhone 3g is going to get patches either, nor a RHEL version that has reached EOL.

scarface74 7y ago
No but the iPhone 5s from 2013 does. Apple’s mobile processor performance increased a lot during the first five years and went 64 bit.
- lern_too_spel 7y ago
  And the iPhone 4 does not. The point is that every phone eventually stops updating. Unfortunately for iPhones, they update poorly even when they have updates, requiring a reboots to patch highly vulnerable apps like the browser or messaging. If you care about security updates, the best option by far is upgrading to a new fast-updating Android phone every two years.
  - scarface74 7y ago
    So it’s worse to have a reboot to patch than none at all....
    - lern_too_spel 7y ago
      You will never have no patch at all if you upgrade to a new phone regularly as I recommended. It is better to have a patch that doesn't require reboots like an Android browser patch than it is to have a patch that requires a reboot like an iOS browser patch than it is to not have a patch like an old iPhone or Android.
      - c0nducktr 7y ago
        Who gives a shit about having to reboot their phone?
        lern_too_spel 7y ago
        The people who leave their devices vulnerable instead of rebooting. Why not require a reboot for updating any app then? Look, I get it. You spent hundreds of dollars on something, and want to feel good about it. On the particular issue of security updates though, it is a poor choice.
        sbuk 7y ago
        Way to build a strawman.
        lern_too_spel 7y ago
        What strawman? Am I arguing a point other than updates? I merely gave a motivation for why GGP ignores the obvious update failures of iOS. By claiming that my argument is a strawman, you are yourself strawmanning.
        sbuk 7y ago
        It’s a strawman because it’s an absurd notion. Much like your tu quoque. You are actually claiming that iOS is inherently insecure because firmware updates require a reboot. You are actually claiming that end users don’t upgrade because of this?! It’s absurd, not to say obtuse. I’m a huge fan of radical candor, so at the risk of reproach, what a stupid hypothesis!
        lern_too_spel 7y ago
        I'm saying that iOS is insecure because it requires reboots for updating your browser. Remember when Windows required that? I have seen plenty of people with reboot notifications on their phone that they ignore for days or even weeks at a time, so no, it is not absurd. Also, you should familiarize yourself with the definition of strawman. It does not a synonym for absurd.