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Microsoft Hosts First Windows Subsystem for Linux Conference

12 points by CrankyBear 7y ago

thesuperbigfrog 7y ago
With Stallman's recent visit to Microsoft, I can't help but think that Windows Subsystem for Linux 1 would have been better named GNU / Windows. With WSL 2, it is now GNU / Linux / Windows.
- zamadatix 7y ago
  The subsystem was named after the thing it emulated the interfaces of not the software you can run inside of it (of which I wonder what % of the Ubuntu image is even GNU software anyways).
daly 7y ago
I worked in WSL for a week. Then Microsoft decided to automatically reboot my system while I was sleeping. I lost a weeks worth of work. WSL is cute but it is a toy. Microsoft doesn't value your work. Stick with a real linux distro. My linux boxes all have uptimes of hundreds of days, since our last full day power outage. Props to the WSL team. They made such a nice toy.
- service_bus 7y ago
  I recently lost a weeks worth of work as well (due to a mistake at my vpc provider) I resented them for causing me to lose my work, but deep down I knew the fault was mine for not having proper backups.
- dTal 7y ago
  I am sorry for your loss... but if you're keeping unsaved data around for a week, you do rather have yourself to blame. I would never leave work at the end of a day without ensuring that all of the day's work is safely persisted to disk - there's no excuse for doing otherwise.
tony 7y ago
WSL 2 is the real game changer. I'm on an issue for WSL 1 where there's a nasty bug when dealing with a lot of files. The only way you can free up the file system is to restart. https://github.com/microsoft/WSL/issues/2882 https://github.com/microsoft/WSL/issues/2882 WSL 2 alleviates this file issue. There are some issues where daemons like postgres, mongo, etc. aren't started by default and sysctl.conf isn't respected. A manual command has to be ran. Windows 10 is fast. It has amazing support for high resolution displays and multi-monitor that a light year ahead of anything Linux has unfortunately. WSL also gives choice of distro. You get to use the stable packages instead of being stuck with a brew package that's broken.
- NotSammyHagar 7y ago
  The many linux distros are also great. What do you need windows for? I can't stand the windows 10 auto updates and monitoring that is a huge pain to turn off. Why don't people just use linux? Is there some dev tool on windows you really prefer?

12 points by CrankyBear 7y ago

With Stallman's recent visit to Microsoft, I can't help but think that Windows Subsystem for Linux 1 would have been better named GNU / Windows. With WSL 2, it is now GNU / Linux / Windows.

zamadatix 7y ago
The subsystem was named after the thing it emulated the interfaces of not the software you can run inside of it (of which I wonder what % of the Ubuntu image is even GNU software anyways).

daly 7y ago

I worked in WSL for a week. Then Microsoft decided to automatically reboot my system while I was sleeping. I lost a weeks worth of work. WSL is cute but it is a toy. Microsoft doesn't value your work. Stick with a real linux distro. My linux boxes all have uptimes of hundreds of days, since our last full day power outage. Props to the WSL team. They made such a nice toy.

service_bus 7y ago
I recently lost a weeks worth of work as well (due to a mistake at my vpc provider) I resented them for causing me to lose my work, but deep down I knew the fault was mine for not having proper backups.
dTal 7y ago
I am sorry for your loss... but if you're keeping unsaved data around for a week, you do rather have yourself to blame. I would never leave work at the end of a day without ensuring that all of the day's work is safely persisted to disk - there's no excuse for doing otherwise.

tony 7y ago

WSL 2 is the real game changer. I'm on an issue for WSL 1 where there's a nasty bug when dealing with a lot of files. The only way you can free up the file system is to restart. https://github.com/microsoft/WSL/issues/2882 https://github.com/microsoft/WSL/issues/2882 WSL 2 alleviates this file issue. There are some issues where daemons like postgres, mongo, etc. aren't started by default and sysctl.conf isn't respected. A manual command has to be ran. Windows 10 is fast. It has amazing support for high resolution displays and multi-monitor that a light year ahead of anything Linux has unfortunately. WSL also gives choice of distro. You get to use the stable packages instead of being stuck with a brew package that's broken.

NotSammyHagar 7y ago
The many linux distros are also great. What do you need windows for? I can't stand the windows 10 auto updates and monitoring that is a huge pain to turn off. Why don't people just use linux? Is there some dev tool on windows you really prefer?