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>Google and Apple should definitely fight these requests as they represent a very slippery slope. It is kind of strange that the stopping (or not) of such a bl

by trhway 7y ago

>Google and Apple should definitely fight these requests as they represent a very slippery slope. It is kind of strange that the stopping (or not) of such a blatant unconstitutional action affecting fundamental rights of so many people (especially if the action succeeds and gets established as precedent) depends only on goodwill/caprice of a couple of for-profit corporate entities. I wonder shouldn't be there a system/process where any person whose data is to be handed over would get a chance to challenge it in court (at least like for example it was in the good old times of the movie industry going after alleged pirates)

ummonk 7y ago
I wonder whether this might violate GDPR if the companies just voluntarily handed the data over and it included Europeans.
- bilbo0s 7y ago
  Just from a purely legal perspective, I'm not sure Apple and Google are even supposed to have that data? The company that sells the app, assuming they collected the information, technically was not supposed to share anything with Apple or Google. (Or rather, they were only supposed to share under certain very specific conditions.) So I can't really tell what the Feds are asking for in particular? But assuming they are asking for information specific to the app, I'm not sure that Apple or Google were supposed to be snooping that information under GDPR? And I'm very sure that the app maker was not supposed to be collecting it in any kind of a way that shared it with Google or Apple. (Certainly not sharing it outright.)
  - derefr 7y ago
    Apple/Google presumably know who purchased the app, through their respective app stores.
    - LyndsySimon 7y ago
      FWIW, it's free.
      - derefr 7y ago
        Free downloads are still tracked as "purchases" through app stores. You end up with the app in your "purchase history", etc. This allows the app store to give the app's vendor some simple, useful analytics, like showing how placement in the store influences these "purchases."
- henryfjordan 7y ago
  The GDPR contains provisions about law enforcement requests. https://gdpr-info.eu/art-23-gdpr/ https://gdpr-info.eu/art-23-gdpr/

by trhway 7y ago

ummonk 7y ago

I wonder whether this might violate GDPR if the companies just voluntarily handed the data over and it included Europeans.

bilbo0s 7y ago
Just from a purely legal perspective, I'm not sure Apple and Google are even supposed to have that data? The company that sells the app, assuming they collected the information, technically was not supposed to share anything with Apple or Google. (Or rather, they were only supposed to share under certain very specific conditions.) So I can't really tell what the Feds are asking for in particular? But assuming they are asking for information specific to the app, I'm not sure that Apple or Google were supposed to be snooping that information under GDPR? And I'm very sure that the app maker was not supposed to be collecting it in any kind of a way that shared it with Google or Apple. (Certainly not sharing it outright.)
- derefr 7y ago
  Apple/Google presumably know who purchased the app, through their respective app stores.
  - LyndsySimon 7y ago
    FWIW, it's free.
    - derefr 7y ago
      Free downloads are still tracked as "purchases" through app stores. You end up with the app in your "purchase history", etc. This allows the app store to give the app's vendor some simple, useful analytics, like showing how placement in the store influences these "purchases."
henryfjordan 7y ago
The GDPR contains provisions about law enforcement requests. https://gdpr-info.eu/art-23-gdpr/ https://gdpr-info.eu/art-23-gdpr/