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will be interesting to watch how Kirin 990 based phones are going to perform in EU markets when Google Play services are not allowed to be pre-installed

yorwba 7y ago
Would the sanctions prevent Google from licensing Google Play services to a European company, if said company intends to install the software on imported Huawei phones?
Mikeb85 7y ago
Are there EU sanctions against Huawei? Because the US lifted the ban on US companies selling to Huawei before it really came into effect.
- stefan_ 7y ago
  The Mate 30 will not have Google services: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-huawei-tech-alphabet-idUSKCN1VI240 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-huawei-tech-alphabet-idUS... Google, as a US company, can't license (=sell) to Huawei. EU never enters into it.
  - chvid 7y ago
    If Huawei can make a set of comparable cloud services (app store, push notifications, maps ...) that runs in the eu under eu law. Then that coupled with the high end hardware they are obviously capable of making would make a very compelling package for an European audience. This may not be obvious to an American observer but the mistrust of American big tech is quite widespread in certain parts of Europe.
    - jessaustin 7y ago
      "Mistrust of American big tech" is not unknown in USA either.
    - londons_explore 7y ago
      > If Huawei can make a set of comparable cloud services... Lack of YouTube, Google Maps, and GMail will kill it for 90 percent of users.
      - rstuart4133 7y ago
        GMail supports SMTP an IMAP access, so they won't lack GMail. Youtube supports web access which frankly is better than the Google App because it doesn't nag you all the time. Google Maps up until recently was just another navigation app which are a dime a dozen. (For a while there it wasn't a particularly good navigation app, but they've really pick up their game recently.) I have no doubt can build replacements for them all. But all those apps in the app store - that's a problem. Google's lead in speech recognition - that's a problem. Google pay - that's a problem, particularly as the app store is tied into it. Google's lead in image processing and cameras - that's a problem. Google's amazing ability to translate languages - that's a problem.
    - CountSessine 7y ago
      If Huawei can make a set of comparable cloud services (app store, push notifications, maps ...) Oh, is that all they need to do? History has shown that most hardware companies are really good at writing software, so they should have this in the bag.
    - cbnotfromthere 7y ago
      "This may not be obvious to an American observer but the mistrust of American big tech is quite widespread in certain parts of Europe. " Your claim is fallacious because whoever is tech savvy enough to mistrust US big tech would NEVER EVER trust Chinese big tech. https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/94/False-Dilemma https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFalla...
  - Mikeb85 7y ago
    Gotcha. The whole blacklist thing is confusing AF, especially with Huawei being given several reprieves...
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yorwba 7y ago

Would the sanctions prevent Google from licensing Google Play services to a European company, if said company intends to install the software on imported Huawei phones?

Mikeb85 7y ago

Are there EU sanctions against Huawei? Because the US lifted the ban on US companies selling to Huawei before it really came into effect.

stefan_ 7y ago
The Mate 30 will not have Google services: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-huawei-tech-alphabet-idUSKCN1VI240 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-huawei-tech-alphabet-idUS... Google, as a US company, can't license (=sell) to Huawei. EU never enters into it.
- chvid 7y ago
  If Huawei can make a set of comparable cloud services (app store, push notifications, maps ...) that runs in the eu under eu law. Then that coupled with the high end hardware they are obviously capable of making would make a very compelling package for an European audience. This may not be obvious to an American observer but the mistrust of American big tech is quite widespread in certain parts of Europe.
  - jessaustin 7y ago
    "Mistrust of American big tech" is not unknown in USA either.
  - londons_explore 7y ago
    > If Huawei can make a set of comparable cloud services... Lack of YouTube, Google Maps, and GMail will kill it for 90 percent of users.
    - rstuart4133 7y ago
      GMail supports SMTP an IMAP access, so they won't lack GMail. Youtube supports web access which frankly is better than the Google App because it doesn't nag you all the time. Google Maps up until recently was just another navigation app which are a dime a dozen. (For a while there it wasn't a particularly good navigation app, but they've really pick up their game recently.) I have no doubt can build replacements for them all. But all those apps in the app store - that's a problem. Google's lead in speech recognition - that's a problem. Google pay - that's a problem, particularly as the app store is tied into it. Google's lead in image processing and cameras - that's a problem. Google's amazing ability to translate languages - that's a problem.
  - CountSessine 7y ago
    If Huawei can make a set of comparable cloud services (app store, push notifications, maps ...) Oh, is that all they need to do? History has shown that most hardware companies are really good at writing software, so they should have this in the bag.
  - cbnotfromthere 7y ago
    "This may not be obvious to an American observer but the mistrust of American big tech is quite widespread in certain parts of Europe. " Your claim is fallacious because whoever is tech savvy enough to mistrust US big tech would NEVER EVER trust Chinese big tech. https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/94/False-Dilemma https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFalla...
- Mikeb85 7y ago
  Gotcha. The whole blacklist thing is confusing AF, especially with Huawei being given several reprieves...
- deleted 7y ago
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