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I would have never discovered 99% of the music I listen to if I didn't use Spotify. There are pros/cons to both sides of this argument. Many artists would not

I would have never discovered 99% of the music I listen to if I didn't use Spotify. There are pros/cons to both sides of this argument. Many artists would not have a music career if it weren't for platforms like Spotify (mainly Spotify). Spotify put their music in people's ears. Spotify made people fans and now those fans buy tickets and go to their shows, so these bands are able to tour. There are pros/cons to both sides of this story.

mlthoughts2018 7y ago
> “I would have never discovered 99% of the music I listen to if I didn't use Spotify.” Can you take a step back and recognize this is weird and pathological. Music recommendations should come from experience, people, multiple sources. If a for-profit platform interested in extracting as much money from you as they can (let alone minimize their costs paid to artists) is responsible for 99% of what you believe you are choosing to consume... something’s pretty wrong. Imagine saying, I wouldn’t have discovered 99% of the foods I like if not for my Blue Apron subscription...
- dmitriid 7y ago
  > Music recommendations should come from experience, people, multiple sources Why do you assume streaming replaces all that? Streaming services immensely complement all that.
  - mlthoughts2018 7y ago
    The comment above specifically said 99% of the music they listen to was discovered by Spotify. That is replacing, not complementing. This is also the same model I see in friends or colleagues who use Spotify: it is their sole source of music or music recommendation.
    - vonseel 7y ago
      I suppose their recommendation quality only goes up the more you use the platform. It is a damn good recommender. From Discover Weekly to similar features like "Artist/Song/Playlist Radio" that continue playing similar music after your playlist/album ends... the Spotify recommendation systems are probably the most successful, enhancing implementation of ML I can recall seeing in the wild. Certainly much better than YouTube which for months has been begging me to watch this "Pete Davidson Got Stuck Paying for Kid Cudi's Birthday Dinner..." video (I'm not a fan of either of those guys). Maybe you should give it a try. Certainly can't hurt.
  - vonseel 7y ago
    Exactly. Spotify and Youtube links enable sharing music easily among friends. Friends send me messages "hey check out this" accompanied by a link directly to spotify. If we were still in the tape/CD age, this wouldn't be as easily possible.

mlthoughts2018 7y ago

> “I would have never discovered 99% of the music I listen to if I didn't use Spotify.” Can you take a step back and recognize this is weird and pathological. Music recommendations should come from experience, people, multiple sources. If a for-profit platform interested in extracting as much money from you as they can (let alone minimize their costs paid to artists) is responsible for 99% of what you believe you are choosing to consume... something’s pretty wrong. Imagine saying, I wouldn’t have discovered 99% of the foods I like if not for my Blue Apron subscription...

dmitriid 7y ago
> Music recommendations should come from experience, people, multiple sources Why do you assume streaming replaces all that? Streaming services immensely complement all that.
- mlthoughts2018 7y ago
  The comment above specifically said 99% of the music they listen to was discovered by Spotify. That is replacing, not complementing. This is also the same model I see in friends or colleagues who use Spotify: it is their sole source of music or music recommendation.
  - vonseel 7y ago
    I suppose their recommendation quality only goes up the more you use the platform. It is a damn good recommender. From Discover Weekly to similar features like "Artist/Song/Playlist Radio" that continue playing similar music after your playlist/album ends... the Spotify recommendation systems are probably the most successful, enhancing implementation of ML I can recall seeing in the wild. Certainly much better than YouTube which for months has been begging me to watch this "Pete Davidson Got Stuck Paying for Kid Cudi's Birthday Dinner..." video (I'm not a fan of either of those guys). Maybe you should give it a try. Certainly can't hurt.
- vonseel 7y ago
  Exactly. Spotify and Youtube links enable sharing music easily among friends. Friends send me messages "hey check out this" accompanied by a link directly to spotify. If we were still in the tape/CD age, this wouldn't be as easily possible.