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If the transaction stopped at receiving the money, that would be one thing. However, ML donors visit the lab twice a year for sponsor weeks. It meant putting
by diydsp 7y ago
If the transaction stopped at receiving the money, that would be one thing. However, ML donors visit the lab twice a year for sponsor weeks. It meant putting other sponsors, faculty, and researcher assistants in the same room as a convicted sex offender for several weeks of the year.
And he wasn't just a convicted sex offender, as in "streaked the incoming freshman class." He was a world class scumbug who (seemingly) got a sweetheart deal for ratting out some top brass at Bear Stearns. If he was little people, he'd be away for life and destroyed by inmates.
And in retrospect it appears he was even not a reformed offender.
- HarryHirsch 7y agoIt meant putting other sponsors, faculty, and researcher assistants in the same room as a convicted sex offender for several weeks of the year. That was precisely the point. Epstein gave the money and bought legitimacy with it. Everyone in the room knew they were having dinner with a pervert and slaveholder, but he was a philanthropic slaveholder.
- roenxi 7y agoThe number of people harmed was very small, the number of people who benefit from money -> research is very large, and the people accepting the money have no connection to what he did. There is a long history of science being involved in stuff that was considered morally reprehensible and it turned out really well for generations of people. Medicine has a history of grave robbers, Chemistry has some real monsters in the closet, the Physicists may as well have blood on their hands for what they worked to enable and why not throw in Turing? He is unusual in that the standards changed so history remembers him kindly. Lucky man. I don't see why the standard should change with Epstein and suddenly moral outrage trumps enabling academics. Let the law handle it, and let the universities take in money.
- woah 7y agoWhy is Turing lucky?
- Gibbon1 7y ago'He's not a criminal he wears nice suits and has soft hands'
- Gibbon1 7y agoYeah money always comes with strings attached.
- darawk 7y ago> And he wasn't just a convicted sex offender, as in "streaked the incoming freshman class." He was a world class scumbug who (seemingly) got a sweetheart deal for ratting out some top brass at Bear Stearns Slightly off topic but do you have a source for that? Not because I don't believe you, but just because I hadn't heard that little detail before and it sounds interesting.
- peter_l_downs 7y agoif you were to google "jeffrey epstein bear stearns" you would relatively quickly arrive at this page http://miamiherald.com/news/local/article220097825.html http://miamiherald.com/news/local/article220097825.html but they don't link a specific source and all other results just repeat this information
- claudeganon 7y agohttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Hoffenberg https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Hoffenberg
- scottlocklin 7y agoI dunno if it's true; the Epstein story seems to be a bottomless pit of corruption: https://nypost.com/2018/11/28/pedophile-millionaire-dodged-harsh-sentence-by-ratting-out-bear-stearns-execs/ https://nypost.com/2018/11/28/pedophile-millionaire-dodged-h...