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Can't beleive this is from the same company that puts Candy Crush Saga and other junkware on Windows 10 "Pro" installs - and then limited the ability to have a

Can't beleive this is from the same company that puts Candy Crush Saga and other junkware on Windows 10 "Pro" installs - and then limited the ability to have a default profile that picks up their removal with new profiles. The hoopjumping to clean up the Win 10 "Pro" mess is silly. What enterprise is asking for all this junkware to be installed - it makes absolutely no sense for this to be on domain networks. I keep on reading that Microsoft listens "closely" to their customers - and am like - really?

rasz 7y ago
>Can't beleive this is from the same company that I can. Have you looked at it? Its a 22.2 MB shortcut help screen and some window tiling helper, 22.2 MB of total fluff. Its a direct opposite of what a Power user would want. Original 205 KB PowerToys/Tweak UI were meant for advanced users wanting an easier access to hidden features.
- UnFleshedOne 7y ago
  Eh, those are times when chat clients weigh 400Mb and come with their own browser.
Tempest1981 7y ago
It's not surprising that a large company can have different groups with different goals -- esp developers in engineering, vs marketing/sales teams. It can result in some epic internal battles.
basch 7y ago
Does Remove-AppxProvisionedPackage not work? Or does it come back every 6 months as the OS reinstalls?
- privateSFacct 7y ago
  The issue is you used to be able to remove apps at any time and then set that profile to be a default profile. Once these junkware apps are provisioned once it's a much bigger pain to get them out of default profile land. In other words, you'd better boot straight into audit mode, have everything lined up right to clean this stuff up. And yes, that is Remove-AppxProvisionedPackage . How about adding Remove-AllJunk with some sane defaults? And why have to do this? I'm the one paying per seat on these installs - and instead of solving problems I am given a bunch of problems.
  - basch 7y ago
    Why do you need to boot into audit mode? Get-AppXProvisionedPackage -Online | Select PackageName Remove-AppXProvisionedPackage -Online -PackageName <PackageName> Your Remove-AllJunk is basically Get-AppXProvisionedPackage -Online | Remove-AppxProvisionedPackage -Online
    - privateSFacct 7y ago
      Totally false. You realize even just an automatic update blows things up? https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/2769827/sysprep-fails-after-you-remove-or-update-windows-store-apps-that-inclu https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/2769827/sysprep-fai... "You want to remove some of the side-loaded Appx packages from your image and customize it further. You boot into the reference computer and run one of the following PowerShell commands to remove the provisioning of the Appx package: Remove-AppxProvisionedPackage –PackageName <PackageName> Remove-ProvisionedAppxPackage –PackageName <PackageName> When you run sysprep operation in this scenario, the operation may fail with the following error: System Preparation Tool 3.14 A fatal error occurred while trying to sysprep the machine"

rasz 7y ago

>Can't beleive this is from the same company that I can. Have you looked at it? Its a 22.2 MB shortcut help screen and some window tiling helper, 22.2 MB of total fluff. Its a direct opposite of what a Power user would want. Original 205 KB PowerToys/Tweak UI were meant for advanced users wanting an easier access to hidden features.

UnFleshedOne 7y ago
Eh, those are times when chat clients weigh 400Mb and come with their own browser.

Tempest1981 7y ago

It's not surprising that a large company can have different groups with different goals -- esp developers in engineering, vs marketing/sales teams. It can result in some epic internal battles.

basch 7y ago

Does Remove-AppxProvisionedPackage not work? Or does it come back every 6 months as the OS reinstalls?

privateSFacct 7y ago
The issue is you used to be able to remove apps at any time and then set that profile to be a default profile. Once these junkware apps are provisioned once it's a much bigger pain to get them out of default profile land. In other words, you'd better boot straight into audit mode, have everything lined up right to clean this stuff up. And yes, that is Remove-AppxProvisionedPackage . How about adding Remove-AllJunk with some sane defaults? And why have to do this? I'm the one paying per seat on these installs - and instead of solving problems I am given a bunch of problems.
- basch 7y ago
  Why do you need to boot into audit mode? Get-AppXProvisionedPackage -Online | Select PackageName Remove-AppXProvisionedPackage -Online -PackageName <PackageName> Your Remove-AllJunk is basically Get-AppXProvisionedPackage -Online | Remove-AppxProvisionedPackage -Online
  - privateSFacct 7y ago
    Totally false. You realize even just an automatic update blows things up? https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/2769827/sysprep-fails-after-you-remove-or-update-windows-store-apps-that-inclu https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/2769827/sysprep-fai... "You want to remove some of the side-loaded Appx packages from your image and customize it further. You boot into the reference computer and run one of the following PowerShell commands to remove the provisioning of the Appx package: Remove-AppxProvisionedPackage –PackageName <PackageName> Remove-ProvisionedAppxPackage –PackageName <PackageName> When you run sysprep operation in this scenario, the operation may fail with the following error: System Preparation Tool 3.14 A fatal error occurred while trying to sysprep the machine"