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Putting more vehicles on the road means more deaths though. I personally think that people's obsession with getting things quickly isn't really sustainable and

by notus 7y ago

Putting more vehicles on the road means more deaths though. I personally think that people's obsession with getting things quickly isn't really sustainable and panders to parts of our character that we would rather do without. "I want it now" reminds me of Veruca Salt in Willy Wonka.

nerfhammer 7y ago
are they really putting more vehicles on the road though? That is, are they replacing a larger number of people driving themselves to stores with a smaller number of professional delivery vehicles?
- StudentStuff 7y ago
  Amazon is directly putting additional vehicles to the road as a fourth shipping carrier, where USPS, FedEx & UPS already run trucks through these neighborhoods. If Amazon wanted, they could expand their use of existing infrastructure, namely USPS (which is legally obligated to service homes and businesses) rather than create redundant, poorly maintained secondary infrastructure. Amazon's FBA program is entirely focused on paying as little as possible to get parcels delivered. There are no living wages, or properly maintained delivery vehicles to be had for the workers that carry Amazon's parcels.
  - ses1984 7y ago
    It's not like you can just fit all of Amazon's load on existing carriers, they would probably need to put more trucks on the road if they absorbed Amazon's load.
    - lostapathy 7y ago
      Correct. We know this to be true because UPS lacked the capacity to deliver for Amazon a few years ago around the holidays, which is what prompted Amazon to start their own service.
  - dickeytk 7y ago
    I don’t think you understood grandparent. He pointed out the consumers needing products would be driving themselves and not having Amazon do it for them.
    - macintux 7y ago
      Not necessarily. It’s quite possible that Prime drives more demand.
      - tracer4201 7y ago
        I’d like to see data before I accept your “quite possible” response, although more demand isn’t a bad thing.
        macintux 7y ago
        You don’t think it’s even possible that the ability to have practically any itch immediately scratched makes it more likely people would pull the trigger on impulse purchases? That’s practically the entire story of the consumer economy over the last 50 years. And more demand is often a bad thing. More demand for meat is straining our natural resources, e.g.
        notus 7y ago
        It's been known for years that online shopping encourages impulse shopping.
- notus 7y ago
  Well Amazon encourages people to make purchases they wouldn't normally make so yeah I would say they do
  - justicezyx 7y ago
    The parent already mentioning the factor that people get things through consolidated delivery, you are still claiming the other side solely. Is there something wrong?

by notus 7y ago

nerfhammer 7y ago

are they really putting more vehicles on the road though? That is, are they replacing a larger number of people driving themselves to stores with a smaller number of professional delivery vehicles?

StudentStuff 7y ago
Amazon is directly putting additional vehicles to the road as a fourth shipping carrier, where USPS, FedEx & UPS already run trucks through these neighborhoods. If Amazon wanted, they could expand their use of existing infrastructure, namely USPS (which is legally obligated to service homes and businesses) rather than create redundant, poorly maintained secondary infrastructure. Amazon's FBA program is entirely focused on paying as little as possible to get parcels delivered. There are no living wages, or properly maintained delivery vehicles to be had for the workers that carry Amazon's parcels.
- ses1984 7y ago
  It's not like you can just fit all of Amazon's load on existing carriers, they would probably need to put more trucks on the road if they absorbed Amazon's load.
  - lostapathy 7y ago
    Correct. We know this to be true because UPS lacked the capacity to deliver for Amazon a few years ago around the holidays, which is what prompted Amazon to start their own service.
- dickeytk 7y ago
  I don’t think you understood grandparent. He pointed out the consumers needing products would be driving themselves and not having Amazon do it for them.
  - macintux 7y ago
    Not necessarily. It’s quite possible that Prime drives more demand.
    - tracer4201 7y ago
      I’d like to see data before I accept your “quite possible” response, although more demand isn’t a bad thing.
      - macintux 7y ago
        You don’t think it’s even possible that the ability to have practically any itch immediately scratched makes it more likely people would pull the trigger on impulse purchases? That’s practically the entire story of the consumer economy over the last 50 years. And more demand is often a bad thing. More demand for meat is straining our natural resources, e.g.
      - notus 7y ago
        It's been known for years that online shopping encourages impulse shopping.
notus 7y ago
Well Amazon encourages people to make purchases they wouldn't normally make so yeah I would say they do
- justicezyx 7y ago
  The parent already mentioning the factor that people get things through consolidated delivery, you are still claiming the other side solely. Is there something wrong?