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> No boats - not even local fishing boats - are allowed into the area, called Eckernförde Bay, about 70km (44 miles) south of the Danish border. Do they mean t

> No boats - not even local fishing boats - are allowed into the area, called Eckernförde Bay, about 70km (44 miles) south of the Danish border. Do they mean this Eckernförde Bay? https://www.google.com/maps/@54.4733896,9.8473616,800m/data=!3m1!1e3 https://www.google.com/maps/@54.4733896,9.8473616,800m/data=... Here? https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:9.973/centery:54.493/zoom:12 https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:9.973/cent...

rerx 7y ago
There are some restricted zones. German, but if you click on the map, you will get an idea: https://mein-ostseehafen.de/seegebiete/schleswig-holstein/schleimuende-bis-eckernfoerde.html?layout=edit&id=301#Eckernfoerder_Bucht https://mein-ostseehafen.de/seegebiete/schleswig-holstein/sc...
- frobozz 7y ago
  Openseamap shows two sperrgebiete in the bay, and one just outside it http://map.openseamap.org/?lang=de http://map.openseamap.org/?lang=de
- samstave 7y ago
  I really want to know if that german submarine station in antarctica and the rumored US base under san diego are true.
  - gonesilent 7y ago
    Coronado the main Navy base in San Diego is mostly built on top of a sand burm. If anything is under San Diego it would have to be Miramar, or Camp Pendleton.
dubbel 7y ago
The German source article is a bit more specific: They are talking about the exclusion zone "Hausgarten" near the Camping ground Hökholz. https://map.openseamap.org/?zoom=15&lat=54.54194&lon=10.04402&layers=BFTFFTTFFTF0TFFFFFTTFF https://map.openseamap.org/?zoom=15&lat=54.54194&lon=10.0440...
- namewithhe1d 7y ago
  I see a couple candidates that passed through on Aug 20 Map of vessels passing through from Aug 18 - Aug 21 https://imgur.com/a/yLedgc6 https://imgur.com/a/yLedgc6 Left track passed through Aug 18, right two tracks passed through Aug 20. Vessel Hex Callsign DJ3767 MMSI 211191450 Vessel SY Malika Callsign DK7486 MMSI 211634590
  - zelienople 7y ago
    Hex is a 10m sailboat. Malika is a 12m sailboat. These boats did not move a 750kg monitoring station, even in a hurricane, which there wasn't.
    - namewithhe1d 7y ago
      I agree.. doubtful, though these are the only vessels passing through the polygon based on AIS
  - yorwba 7y ago
    What tool did you use for that query?
    - namewithhe1d 7y ago
      vesseltracker.com paid service
      - ericb 7y ago
        Out of curiosity, how does it get data? Is it from satellites, or some other method? I've always wondered if small ships at sea are anonymous, or no.
        aphextim 7y ago
        https://www.marinetraffic.com/ https://www.marinetraffic.com/ has a free version, from their website. >The system is based on the collection and processing of data transmitted via the AIS (Automatic Identification System). The AIS-Receiving stations that comprise the MarineTraffic network pick-up such data and share it with the MarineTraffic central database. >All vessels equipped with an AIS transponder emit AIS-data which can be received by any AIS-receiving unit provided it is within range. AIS message packets are encoded in NMEA sentences (64-bit plain text). A sample is shown below: >!AIVDM,1,1,,B,1INS<8@P001cnWFEdSmh00bT0000,0*38 >The contents of any incoming NMEA sentence can be decoded. This way, information on the following three basic sections can be deducted: >Dynamic Information, such as the subject vessel’s position, speed, current status, course and rate of turn. Static Information, such as the subject vessel’s name, IMO number, MMSI number, dimensions. Voyage-specific Information, such as the subject vessel's destination, ETA and draught. The central database constantly receives and processes large amounts of AIS-data and stores the most important part of it (together with geographic information on a multitude of ports and areas, vessels' photos and other details). Current positions and/or tracks of vessels are displayed on the MarineTraffic Live Map while Positions History, Vessel Details, Port Conditions and Statistics can be easily found using our dedicated web pages. From - https://help.marinetraffic.com/hc/en-us/articles/205413667-How-is-the-data-collected-and-used-by-MarineTraffic- https://help.marinetraffic.com/hc/en-us/articles/205413667-H...
ackfoo 7y ago
Yes, that is the problem with news reporters. They have no specialized body of knowledge, so they don't understand that the statement is obviously ridiculous. It confuses exclusion zones in Eckernförde Bay with the entirety of the bay.

rerx 7y ago

There are some restricted zones. German, but if you click on the map, you will get an idea: https://mein-ostseehafen.de/seegebiete/schleswig-holstein/schleimuende-bis-eckernfoerde.html?layout=edit&id=301#Eckernfoerder_Bucht https://mein-ostseehafen.de/seegebiete/schleswig-holstein/sc...

frobozz 7y ago
Openseamap shows two sperrgebiete in the bay, and one just outside it http://map.openseamap.org/?lang=de http://map.openseamap.org/?lang=de
samstave 7y ago
I really want to know if that german submarine station in antarctica and the rumored US base under san diego are true.
- gonesilent 7y ago
  Coronado the main Navy base in San Diego is mostly built on top of a sand burm. If anything is under San Diego it would have to be Miramar, or Camp Pendleton.

dubbel 7y ago

The German source article is a bit more specific: They are talking about the exclusion zone "Hausgarten" near the Camping ground Hökholz. https://map.openseamap.org/?zoom=15&lat=54.54194&lon=10.04402&layers=BFTFFTTFFTF0TFFFFFTTFF https://map.openseamap.org/?zoom=15&lat=54.54194&lon=10.0440...

namewithhe1d 7y ago
I see a couple candidates that passed through on Aug 20 Map of vessels passing through from Aug 18 - Aug 21 https://imgur.com/a/yLedgc6 https://imgur.com/a/yLedgc6 Left track passed through Aug 18, right two tracks passed through Aug 20. Vessel Hex Callsign DJ3767 MMSI 211191450 Vessel SY Malika Callsign DK7486 MMSI 211634590
- zelienople 7y ago
  Hex is a 10m sailboat. Malika is a 12m sailboat. These boats did not move a 750kg monitoring station, even in a hurricane, which there wasn't.
  - namewithhe1d 7y ago
    I agree.. doubtful, though these are the only vessels passing through the polygon based on AIS
- yorwba 7y ago
  What tool did you use for that query?
  - namewithhe1d 7y ago
    vesseltracker.com paid service
    - ericb 7y ago
      Out of curiosity, how does it get data? Is it from satellites, or some other method? I've always wondered if small ships at sea are anonymous, or no.
      - aphextim 7y ago
        https://www.marinetraffic.com/ https://www.marinetraffic.com/ has a free version, from their website. >The system is based on the collection and processing of data transmitted via the AIS (Automatic Identification System). The AIS-Receiving stations that comprise the MarineTraffic network pick-up such data and share it with the MarineTraffic central database. >All vessels equipped with an AIS transponder emit AIS-data which can be received by any AIS-receiving unit provided it is within range. AIS message packets are encoded in NMEA sentences (64-bit plain text). A sample is shown below: >!AIVDM,1,1,,B,1INS<8@P001cnWFEdSmh00bT0000,0*38 >The contents of any incoming NMEA sentence can be decoded. This way, information on the following three basic sections can be deducted: >Dynamic Information, such as the subject vessel’s position, speed, current status, course and rate of turn. Static Information, such as the subject vessel’s name, IMO number, MMSI number, dimensions. Voyage-specific Information, such as the subject vessel's destination, ETA and draught. The central database constantly receives and processes large amounts of AIS-data and stores the most important part of it (together with geographic information on a multitude of ports and areas, vessels' photos and other details). Current positions and/or tracks of vessels are displayed on the MarineTraffic Live Map while Positions History, Vessel Details, Port Conditions and Statistics can be easily found using our dedicated web pages. From - https://help.marinetraffic.com/hc/en-us/articles/205413667-How-is-the-data-collected-and-used-by-MarineTraffic- https://help.marinetraffic.com/hc/en-us/articles/205413667-H...

ackfoo 7y ago

Yes, that is the problem with news reporters. They have no specialized body of knowledge, so they don't understand that the statement is obviously ridiculous. It confuses exclusion zones in Eckernförde Bay with the entirety of the bay.