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> will feature a higher all-core Turbo frequency when it has sufficient cooling Real world performance needs to be seen, but this feels like a stunt to grab he

by KuiN 7y ago

> will feature a higher all-core Turbo frequency when it has sufficient cooling Real world performance needs to be seen, but this feels like a stunt to grab headlines and direct some attention away from AMD hammering them relentlessly.

MikusR 7y ago
I am sure AMD appreciates a little breathing room to work on the issue that roughly half of Ryzen 3 CPU's are unable to reach advertised frequencies.
- AgloeDreams 7y ago
  ...by incredibly small amounts that have little to no measurable impact on performance. I'm not defending it, it's just such a hilariously overblown issue compared to how bad Intel's gaff is here..
  - zbentley 7y ago
    I mean, it takes only a minimum of tinfoil-hatting to see the teacup-storm of the Ryzen frequency issues as a ploy by Intel. If true, this wouldn't be the first time they've resorted to journalistic skullduggey. Whatever Intel's failings may be, their media/marketing department is (and has, at least as long as I've been building computers, been) far superior to AMD's.
- dis-sys 7y ago
  "advertised frequencies" is a very interesting term these days, Intel obviously delivered its "advertised frequencies" but with all those security patches, the performance hit on Intel processors are up to 30% [1], which is believed to be 5x higher [2] than the impacts on AMD processors. [1] https://www.techspot.com/news/77026-windows-update-reduce-spectre-meltdown-patch-performance-hit.html https://www.techspot.com/news/77026-windows-update-reduce-sp... [2] https://hardware.slashdot.org/story/19/05/20/228218/intel-performance-hit-5x-harder-than-amd-after-spectre-meltdown-patches https://hardware.slashdot.org/story/19/05/20/228218/intel-pe...
- rwmj 7y ago
  My Ryzen 3900X has absolutely storming performance despite this supposed problem. I can compile full featured qemu for one target arch in 19 seconds. Meanwhile I'm retiring an Intel Xeon server that has slowed down so much it's become unusable (for my purposes) because of Spectre mitigations.
  - Avamander 7y ago
    Whoa, sounds like it makes it possible to have a Gentoo install that's nice to use.
- BubRoss 7y ago
  This was a bios bug and not an inherent limitation of the CPU.

by KuiN 7y ago

MikusR 7y ago

I am sure AMD appreciates a little breathing room to work on the issue that roughly half of Ryzen 3 CPU's are unable to reach advertised frequencies.

AgloeDreams 7y ago
...by incredibly small amounts that have little to no measurable impact on performance. I'm not defending it, it's just such a hilariously overblown issue compared to how bad Intel's gaff is here..
- zbentley 7y ago
  I mean, it takes only a minimum of tinfoil-hatting to see the teacup-storm of the Ryzen frequency issues as a ploy by Intel. If true, this wouldn't be the first time they've resorted to journalistic skullduggey. Whatever Intel's failings may be, their media/marketing department is (and has, at least as long as I've been building computers, been) far superior to AMD's.
dis-sys 7y ago
"advertised frequencies" is a very interesting term these days, Intel obviously delivered its "advertised frequencies" but with all those security patches, the performance hit on Intel processors are up to 30% [1], which is believed to be 5x higher [2] than the impacts on AMD processors. [1] https://www.techspot.com/news/77026-windows-update-reduce-spectre-meltdown-patch-performance-hit.html https://www.techspot.com/news/77026-windows-update-reduce-sp... [2] https://hardware.slashdot.org/story/19/05/20/228218/intel-performance-hit-5x-harder-than-amd-after-spectre-meltdown-patches https://hardware.slashdot.org/story/19/05/20/228218/intel-pe...
rwmj 7y ago
My Ryzen 3900X has absolutely storming performance despite this supposed problem. I can compile full featured qemu for one target arch in 19 seconds. Meanwhile I'm retiring an Intel Xeon server that has slowed down so much it's become unusable (for my purposes) because of Spectre mitigations.
- Avamander 7y ago
  Whoa, sounds like it makes it possible to have a Gentoo install that's nice to use.
BubRoss 7y ago
This was a bios bug and not an inherent limitation of the CPU.