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Non-american here. Can someone explain what's so shady about NRA aside from their lobbying for gun rights? Also what is NRA's rational/rebuttal for their shady

Non-american here. Can someone explain what's so shady about NRA aside from their lobbying for gun rights? Also what is NRA's rational/rebuttal for their shady behaviors?

cm2187 7y ago
Given the time zones, I think it is unlikely anyone US based will get back to you.
rhino369 7y ago
Anti-NRA people would say that they are lobbyists for the gun industry, they are extreme, they don't compromise, etc. But really they just disagree with their viewpoint.
oflannabhra 7y ago
The NRA has tied gun ownership to “American culture” (although one could argue they have only promoted a pre-existing connection). I’d say most shadiness of the NRA has to do with their lobbying efforts, and especially how closely they are tied to the gun manufacturing industry. In fact, among hardcore 2nd amendment advocates, there has been a movement to stop supporting the NRA due to corruption, poor management, bloat, and a perception they don’t do enough to support 2nd amendment right, and only further their own existence. [0] [0] - https://www.reddit.com/r/progun/comments/c3e4rs/hickok45_formally_cuts_ties_with_the_nra_on_his/ https://www.reddit.com/r/progun/comments/c3e4rs/hickok45_for...
danaris 7y ago
As I understand it (and I do not remotely claim to be an expert), they used to be an organization that provided gun safety training, supported gun clubs and shooting ranges, and did some lobbying for gun rights as well—but within reason, supporting provisions like background checks. Then, some time in the '70s or '80s or so, they decided they really wanted to make lots more money, and the way to do that was to radicalize their support base. These days, they not only oppose any and all restrictions on the purchase of firearms (including preventing random people from getting their hands on military hardware, preventing convicted violent felons, domestic abusers, and the mentally ill from buying firearms, etc), but they are actively involved in spreading propaganda to keep their base scared of an Other that they'll need guns to protect them from. This ranges from Democrats coming to take their guns, to immigrants coming to take their jerbs, to brown people coming to take their women. They foment racism and hatred, specifically in order to ensure that people will keep paying them to protect the only amendment to the Constitution that's truly sacred: the right of every single real (white, straight, cis, Christian, male) American to own whatever guns he wants.
- dole 7y ago
  When Wayne LaPierre took control in 1991 is pretty much when they started pumping money into advertising and building his personality cult.
syncerr 7y ago
Hasan Minhaj has a great segment on some of the NRA's global footprint. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCJJI6M77pA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCJJI6M77pA

Non-american here. Can someone explain what's so shady about NRA aside from their lobbying for gun rights? Also what is NRA's rational/rebuttal for their shady behaviors?

cm2187 7y ago

Given the time zones, I think it is unlikely anyone US based will get back to you.

rhino369 7y ago

Anti-NRA people would say that they are lobbyists for the gun industry, they are extreme, they don't compromise, etc. But really they just disagree with their viewpoint.

oflannabhra 7y ago

The NRA has tied gun ownership to “American culture” (although one could argue they have only promoted a pre-existing connection). I’d say most shadiness of the NRA has to do with their lobbying efforts, and especially how closely they are tied to the gun manufacturing industry. In fact, among hardcore 2nd amendment advocates, there has been a movement to stop supporting the NRA due to corruption, poor management, bloat, and a perception they don’t do enough to support 2nd amendment right, and only further their own existence. [0] [0] - https://www.reddit.com/r/progun/comments/c3e4rs/hickok45_formally_cuts_ties_with_the_nra_on_his/ https://www.reddit.com/r/progun/comments/c3e4rs/hickok45_for...

danaris 7y ago

As I understand it (and I do not remotely claim to be an expert), they used to be an organization that provided gun safety training, supported gun clubs and shooting ranges, and did some lobbying for gun rights as well—but within reason, supporting provisions like background checks. Then, some time in the '70s or '80s or so, they decided they really wanted to make lots more money, and the way to do that was to radicalize their support base. These days, they not only oppose any and all restrictions on the purchase of firearms (including preventing random people from getting their hands on military hardware, preventing convicted violent felons, domestic abusers, and the mentally ill from buying firearms, etc), but they are actively involved in spreading propaganda to keep their base scared of an Other that they'll need guns to protect them from. This ranges from Democrats coming to take their guns, to immigrants coming to take their jerbs, to brown people coming to take their women. They foment racism and hatred, specifically in order to ensure that people will keep paying them to protect the only amendment to the Constitution that's truly sacred: the right of every single real (white, straight, cis, Christian, male) American to own whatever guns he wants.

dole 7y ago
When Wayne LaPierre took control in 1991 is pretty much when they started pumping money into advertising and building his personality cult.

syncerr 7y ago

Hasan Minhaj has a great segment on some of the NRA's global footprint. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCJJI6M77pA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCJJI6M77pA