> What does society look like when science starts investigating consciousness with a more eastern philosophy lens? I doubt that will happen to any effective or

> What does society look like when science starts investigating consciousness with a more eastern philosophy lens? I doubt that will happen to any effective or substantial degree, "science" is concerned with the quantitative and objective reproducibility. It is impossible for a scientist to fully assimilate the state of someone who is experiencing a "satori", without them either being that person or also experiencing a satori themselves. And if they achieve that, which is unlikely, they are back at square one: how are they going to relay the satori to other scientists for documentation and further research: what is there to research with regards to inner experience when the only known modes of knowledge in science are all outward? Rather, scientists look for effects with whatever physical tools are available to them, such as changes in brain center blood flow; and then they tend to conflate the effects as the causes. IE. it's the changes in the brain causing the satori, not the satori causing the changes in the brain! A thunderclap under the clear blue sky All beings on earth open their eyes; Everything under heaven bows together; Mount Sumeru leaps up and dances. Wumen Huikai