>One issue I have with Clojure is when I have to work with nested datatypes to perform transformations. It's just too hard to keep the shape of that data in you

>One issue I have with Clojure is when I have to work with nested datatypes to perform transformations. It's just too hard to keep the shape of that data in your head. Types help with that. And in Ruby or Java, I have the same problem with objects. No matter what your method of interaction, keeping up with levels of abstraction is hard.