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Happy to be an example against discrimination. :) People should be held accountable for such views. It should be clear to anyone that having "an opinion" whic

Happy to be an example against discrimination. :) People should be held accountable for such views. It should be clear to anyone that having "an opinion" which discriminates a whole group of people is not that same as sharing an opinion about Star Wars..

hgoel 7y ago
So people should lose their livelihoods for having controversial views that the elites in big cities don't like? It isn't even as if his opinion was interfering with his professional responsibilities. Same-sex marriage was a very hot topic just a few years ago, should we unperson everyone who was ever against the cause? Even though the entire point of having freedom of speech and association is to allow safe political discourse? Where would you draw the line? Next do we start firing everyone who supports Trump? Every conservative? Anyone against late-term abortions? It's a shame that you don't seem to appreciate the value of diversity of thought.
- dragonwriter 7y ago
  > Even though the entire point of having freedom of speech and association is to allow safe political discourse? It's to reduce the need for violent revolution against the government by making such discourse that challenges the government safe from retaliation by the government. It is not to make discourse free of consequence more generally. That may in some cases be desirable on its own merits, but it is not part of the “entire point of having freedom of speech”.
ecmascript 7y ago
> People should be held accountable for such views Well, in my country (and I think in the entire EU) what you want is very illegal and is taken very seriously. I think you choose a very fitting username. ;)
- Insanity 7y ago
  Hate speech is illegal in the EU. They haven't taken such opinions lightly when announced publicly. Edit: btw with held accountable I don't mean that is should be illegal. I meant that people have a right to react to "injustice"
  - ecmascript 7y ago
    What do you talk about? Hate speech is not illegal, at least not at EU-level. Where I live, we don't even have a term for hate speech because it's not really happening here that much.

hgoel 7y ago

So people should lose their livelihoods for having controversial views that the elites in big cities don't like? It isn't even as if his opinion was interfering with his professional responsibilities. Same-sex marriage was a very hot topic just a few years ago, should we unperson everyone who was ever against the cause? Even though the entire point of having freedom of speech and association is to allow safe political discourse? Where would you draw the line? Next do we start firing everyone who supports Trump? Every conservative? Anyone against late-term abortions? It's a shame that you don't seem to appreciate the value of diversity of thought.

dragonwriter 7y ago
> Even though the entire point of having freedom of speech and association is to allow safe political discourse? It's to reduce the need for violent revolution against the government by making such discourse that challenges the government safe from retaliation by the government. It is not to make discourse free of consequence more generally. That may in some cases be desirable on its own merits, but it is not part of the “entire point of having freedom of speech”.

ecmascript 7y ago

> People should be held accountable for such views Well, in my country (and I think in the entire EU) what you want is very illegal and is taken very seriously. I think you choose a very fitting username. ;)

Insanity 7y ago
Hate speech is illegal in the EU. They haven't taken such opinions lightly when announced publicly. Edit: btw with held accountable I don't mean that is should be illegal. I meant that people have a right to react to "injustice"
- ecmascript 7y ago
  What do you talk about? Hate speech is not illegal, at least not at EU-level. Where I live, we don't even have a term for hate speech because it's not really happening here that much.