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> Those who want a world where Firefox has a higher market share and mind share I used to be one of these people but I am no longer. I have switched my default

> Those who want a world where Firefox has a higher market share and mind share I used to be one of these people but I am no longer. I have switched my default browser from Firefox to Brave since I cannot withstand Mozillas bullshit anymore. Not only is it a complete joke that firefox put Google Analytics on their privacy pages but their actions of "wokeness" in which they fired Brendan Eich and all their diversity shit has left me very unhappy with Mozilla as an organisation. I stopped my monthly donation a while back and I do not recommend Firefox anymore, only Brave. Why should I donate money towards Firefox when I know it's probably not going to fund Firefox but rather some woke campaign that I am against? They even fired their own CEO when he privately used his own money to fund a political campaign. That is not ok according to Mozilla since diversity of opinion is not something they believe in. https://www.reddit.com/r/MozillaInAction/top/?t=all https://www.reddit.com/r/MozillaInAction/top/?t=all (there is a lot of other crap in there as well, but mainly about Mozilla and other tech companies)

roca 7y ago
If you care about privacy then you have ETP turned on which means Google Analytics would be blocked for you.
Joakal 7y ago
One of your points is that Mozilla is using Google Analytics on privacy pages so you switched to a browser powered by Google? Where will your donation go now if not to Mozilla?
- ecmascript 7y ago
  Can't say I am particular fond of Google either. Brave uses chromium sources but they do not send any data to Google without washing it through their servers first with a default installation. So even if they actually use tech from Google, as a company they are a much better alternative and is much more in line with something I want to support. Probably I will just save the money for now, but perhaps in the near future I will increase donations to some open source contributors via Open Collective (where I know it will fund the developers directly).
xref 7y ago
For anyone curious, Eich didn’t fund a political campaign but rather a constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriage. It was struck down as unconstitutional. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_California_Proposition_8 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_California_Proposition_... Additionally, Eich was not fired but resigned even though the Mozilla board asked him to stay. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brendan_Eich https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brendan_Eich Judging from the parent’s multiple posts in this thread it appears he is adjusting facts to fit his narrative.
- d03-dsd 7y ago
  Forced to resigned is what actually happened. the Mozilla board is irrelevant when pretty much everyone at mozilla (and elsewhere) was against him. https://techcrunch.com/2014/03/28/after-supporting-prop-8-brendan-eich-comes-under-fire-from-mozilla-employees-upon-ceo-appointment/ https://techcrunch.com/2014/03/28/after-supporting-prop-8-br... http://images.gawker.com/v4gzz90abp5suzrmel25/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636.png http://images.gawker.com/v4gzz90abp5suzrmel25/c_fit,fl_progr...
  - roca 7y ago
    It is a lie that "everyone at Mozilla was against him". I worked at Mozilla at the time (distinguished engineer). I don't know about the board, but the vast, vast majority of staff wanted Brendan to stay. A handful of Mozilla Foundation staff spoke out against him and got lots of publicity.
- ecmascript 7y ago
  Not really the truth though. They wanted him to stay, but in a different role. I regard that as being fired as CEO and I do not understand how you could interpret that in any other way. Several employees started a campaign demanding his resignation. Other companies like OkCupid stated recommended Firefox users to switch to Chrome and there were others as well. Sure, he wasn't really fired by the letter but rather he was smeared and a lot of people organized a hate campaign towards him. Who would want to stay in such a toxic environment? Incredible that the same people that claim to value diversity and inclusion just loves to exclude and give people incredible amounts of hate when they do not conform to the exact same beliefs. No one in the board backed their CEO or defended him. I am not adjusting the facts. I do believe in same-sex marriage. You can marry whomever you want beacause I do not care, but to give someone the treatment he got for not believing the same thing is just horrible and unjust.

roca 7y ago

If you care about privacy then you have ETP turned on which means Google Analytics would be blocked for you.

Joakal 7y ago

One of your points is that Mozilla is using Google Analytics on privacy pages so you switched to a browser powered by Google? Where will your donation go now if not to Mozilla?

ecmascript 7y ago
Can't say I am particular fond of Google either. Brave uses chromium sources but they do not send any data to Google without washing it through their servers first with a default installation. So even if they actually use tech from Google, as a company they are a much better alternative and is much more in line with something I want to support. Probably I will just save the money for now, but perhaps in the near future I will increase donations to some open source contributors via Open Collective (where I know it will fund the developers directly).

xref 7y ago

For anyone curious, Eich didn’t fund a political campaign but rather a constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriage. It was struck down as unconstitutional. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_California_Proposition_8 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_California_Proposition_... Additionally, Eich was not fired but resigned even though the Mozilla board asked him to stay. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brendan_Eich https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brendan_Eich Judging from the parent’s multiple posts in this thread it appears he is adjusting facts to fit his narrative.

d03-dsd 7y ago
Forced to resigned is what actually happened. the Mozilla board is irrelevant when pretty much everyone at mozilla (and elsewhere) was against him. https://techcrunch.com/2014/03/28/after-supporting-prop-8-brendan-eich-comes-under-fire-from-mozilla-employees-upon-ceo-appointment/ https://techcrunch.com/2014/03/28/after-supporting-prop-8-br... http://images.gawker.com/v4gzz90abp5suzrmel25/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636.png http://images.gawker.com/v4gzz90abp5suzrmel25/c_fit,fl_progr...
- roca 7y ago
  It is a lie that "everyone at Mozilla was against him". I worked at Mozilla at the time (distinguished engineer). I don't know about the board, but the vast, vast majority of staff wanted Brendan to stay. A handful of Mozilla Foundation staff spoke out against him and got lots of publicity.
ecmascript 7y ago
Not really the truth though. They wanted him to stay, but in a different role. I regard that as being fired as CEO and I do not understand how you could interpret that in any other way. Several employees started a campaign demanding his resignation. Other companies like OkCupid stated recommended Firefox users to switch to Chrome and there were others as well. Sure, he wasn't really fired by the letter but rather he was smeared and a lot of people organized a hate campaign towards him. Who would want to stay in such a toxic environment? Incredible that the same people that claim to value diversity and inclusion just loves to exclude and give people incredible amounts of hate when they do not conform to the exact same beliefs. No one in the board backed their CEO or defended him. I am not adjusting the facts. I do believe in same-sex marriage. You can marry whomever you want beacause I do not care, but to give someone the treatment he got for not believing the same thing is just horrible and unjust.