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That's what I do too. I believe that the more the people who don't tolerate this nonsense (and tell others to do likewise when possible), the quicker we can ach

That's what I do too. I believe that the more the people who don't tolerate this nonsense (and tell others to do likewise when possible), the quicker we can achieve positive change for everyone. And by "positive change" I mean challengers to Chrome and Google's attitude of bulldozing things (including invading privacy).

nightfly 7y ago
That doesn't convey to site owners /why/ you left. You need to tell them. From their perspective they'll just see an even lower percentage of Firefox users and maybe make even less effort to support it.
- Joakal 7y ago
  Might be mean but tying up their support costs with browser compatibility complaints would make it obvious to them.
- iamnotacrook 7y ago
  As an ex-customer why would I care? Do you know how many sites there are on the internet? I'm sure browser support will come up in a meeting at some point if they ever consider increasing sales. I left an online bank because it was too slow on Firefox, and some of the pages didn't render properly. It's trivial moving between banks (you get a cash reward in some cases). I don't want the bad sites fixed; our interests aren't aligned in any way. It would be like trying to tell the manager of a pizza restaurant that you're not going to eat there any more because the service was terrible. I'd leave a bad review on google maps but I don't care if they go bust or whatever. These things all work themselves out in the end, and if they don't, they don't.
  - wutbrodo 7y ago
    The GP comment in this thread specifically calls out doing something as the only way to effect "positive change". It's a little bizarre to respond to someone pointing out that that action won't have the intended effect with "what do I care about changing anything?" It's a valid opinion, but not the conversation anyone on this subthread is having.
    - iamnotacrook 7y ago
      Like most internet conversation, I was responding to the person I was responding to, not the person they were responding to. Different people have different opinions, surprisingly.
      - wutbrodo 7y ago
        It's cute that you're pretending like you understood the conversation all along, but you started your comment with "why would I care?", in response to a conversation where two goal-aligned people were discussing tactics for reaching that goal.
        iamnotacrook 7y ago
        Thank you for your help in how to have a conversation online. It's been very useful.
        wutbrodo 7y ago
        Delighted to have been of service
- falcolas 7y ago
  They should be able to tell from logs and analytics. "Users with a user agent of firefox hit our page but bounce out immediately".
annadane 7y ago
Unrelated but this is why Facebook sucks, you can't meaningfully vote with your wallet if your friends are on Facebook because then you have to stay on Facebook because that's where everything is (Yes, cue the comments saying "just delete it" or "I deleted mine" but for a lot of people it's not practical and FB knows this and continues to act like complete fucking cunts)

nightfly 7y ago

That doesn't convey to site owners /why/ you left. You need to tell them. From their perspective they'll just see an even lower percentage of Firefox users and maybe make even less effort to support it.

Joakal 7y ago
Might be mean but tying up their support costs with browser compatibility complaints would make it obvious to them.
iamnotacrook 7y ago
As an ex-customer why would I care? Do you know how many sites there are on the internet? I'm sure browser support will come up in a meeting at some point if they ever consider increasing sales. I left an online bank because it was too slow on Firefox, and some of the pages didn't render properly. It's trivial moving between banks (you get a cash reward in some cases). I don't want the bad sites fixed; our interests aren't aligned in any way. It would be like trying to tell the manager of a pizza restaurant that you're not going to eat there any more because the service was terrible. I'd leave a bad review on google maps but I don't care if they go bust or whatever. These things all work themselves out in the end, and if they don't, they don't.
- wutbrodo 7y ago
  The GP comment in this thread specifically calls out doing something as the only way to effect "positive change". It's a little bizarre to respond to someone pointing out that that action won't have the intended effect with "what do I care about changing anything?" It's a valid opinion, but not the conversation anyone on this subthread is having.
  - iamnotacrook 7y ago
    Like most internet conversation, I was responding to the person I was responding to, not the person they were responding to. Different people have different opinions, surprisingly.
    - wutbrodo 7y ago
      It's cute that you're pretending like you understood the conversation all along, but you started your comment with "why would I care?", in response to a conversation where two goal-aligned people were discussing tactics for reaching that goal.
      - iamnotacrook 7y ago
        Thank you for your help in how to have a conversation online. It's been very useful.
        wutbrodo 7y ago
        Delighted to have been of service
falcolas 7y ago
They should be able to tell from logs and analytics. "Users with a user agent of firefox hit our page but bounce out immediately".

annadane 7y ago

Unrelated but this is why Facebook sucks, you can't meaningfully vote with your wallet if your friends are on Facebook because then you have to stay on Facebook because that's where everything is (Yes, cue the comments saying "just delete it" or "I deleted mine" but for a lot of people it's not practical and FB knows this and continues to act like complete fucking cunts)