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I don't think you're fair here. There definitely are some that blindly believe the hype, but I met many who clearly see through the bullshit. Mostly, it boils d

I don't think you're fair here. There definitely are some that blindly believe the hype, but I met many who clearly see through the bullshit. Mostly, it boils down to the crucial distinction: are you building the project for someone else or for yourself? If for someone else, of course you want to maximize your revenue, and here the complexity of AWS &co. is an advantage. However, if you're building something for yourself, unless you're stupid you'll calculate well and choose the option that makes most business sense. In many case this means renting a server or a couple of servers for a flat rate. The sad piece of truth in your comment is that there are actually people who seem to know only AWS (etc.) and use it for everything, whether it makes sense or not. Well, that's their choice.

tannhaeuser 7y ago
That's a great point - that there are of course those who ride the cloud wave to milk their customers. To get a sense of how much we're putting the cart before the horse, I recommend taking an occasional look at a subreddit frequented by webdev bootcampers (eg. [1] where they're hellbent to justify using React for static sites, because that's all they really know, and even accuse dissenters of being hiveminded). [1]: https://www.reddit.com/r/webdev/comments/cxfvcw/is_react_still_worth_it_for_nondynamic_webpages/ https://www.reddit.com/r/webdev/comments/cxfvcw/is_react_sti...
- viraptor 7y ago
  I feel you're misrepresenting that discussion. Most people say they shouldn't use react, some propose react to generate static content before deployment, few raise good points for why you may want to use react even if the page is static right now. There's always going to be an extremist opinion somewhere, but it's really not common in the discussion you linked.
  - tannhaeuser 7y ago
    Maybe I'm biased because I've been downvoted. IMO /u/webdev has become a React echo chamber if there ever was one; it's actually encouraging to hear that you've got a different impression.
haydn3 7y ago
This is a great point. If we didn't host our own servers, we'd be on the line for thousands more than we currently pay. It's only sheer force of keeping servers internal that we've had the expertise and knowhow to host our platform ourselves. Now that we're the size that we are, the platform is crazily reliant on hosting it ourselves for administration and liability, so we'd need to have migrated anyway.

tannhaeuser 7y ago

That's a great point - that there are of course those who ride the cloud wave to milk their customers. To get a sense of how much we're putting the cart before the horse, I recommend taking an occasional look at a subreddit frequented by webdev bootcampers (eg. [1] where they're hellbent to justify using React for static sites, because that's all they really know, and even accuse dissenters of being hiveminded). [1]: https://www.reddit.com/r/webdev/comments/cxfvcw/is_react_still_worth_it_for_nondynamic_webpages/ https://www.reddit.com/r/webdev/comments/cxfvcw/is_react_sti...

viraptor 7y ago
I feel you're misrepresenting that discussion. Most people say they shouldn't use react, some propose react to generate static content before deployment, few raise good points for why you may want to use react even if the page is static right now. There's always going to be an extremist opinion somewhere, but it's really not common in the discussion you linked.
- tannhaeuser 7y ago
  Maybe I'm biased because I've been downvoted. IMO /u/webdev has become a React echo chamber if there ever was one; it's actually encouraging to hear that you've got a different impression.

haydn3 7y ago

This is a great point. If we didn't host our own servers, we'd be on the line for thousands more than we currently pay. It's only sheer force of keeping servers internal that we've had the expertise and knowhow to host our platform ourselves. Now that we're the size that we are, the platform is crazily reliant on hosting it ourselves for administration and liability, so we'd need to have migrated anyway.