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To be fair, you've certainly taken your time; USB 3.0 has been with us for about 8 years at this point.
by flyinglizard 7y ago
To be fair, you've certainly taken your time; USB 3.0 has been with us for about 8 years at this point.
- jolmg 7y agoOut of the 4 computers I use regularly, only my work laptop has USB 3.0 and it was given to me less than a year ago. Taking my time? The computers work exceptionally well. USB 3.0 doesn't seem reason enough to replace them, and much less does USB C which is not compatible with any of my devices.
- flyinglizard 7y agoBut that's not the point, is it? The point is that after 8 years, it's exceedingly reasonable for a standard to be superseded.
- jolmg 7y agoNo, it's not. The longer a standard lasts the better. 8 years is really short. I can still connect new earphones to the jack of my CD player from 20 years ago, or my even older mini-cassette player. That's a good standard. What kind of standard lasts less than 10 years?
- IggleSniggle 7y agoAgreed! Now XLR, THATS a good standard. Been around since the 1950s at least, and still the de facto connector today. Sure, you need to insulate against background interference and account for ground hum, but honestly that makes me for a clean connection when done right. XLR and Ethernet is all we need.
- woodrowbarlow 7y agoi still pine for the world envisioned by the first PoE working group; a world where every house's power outlets are just rj45s.
- IggleSniggle 7y agoWow! Never knew this was a thing. Would that be enough to power heavier load appliances (toaster ovens, window AC, etc)?
- woodrowbarlow 7y agoit's at that state now, yes. 100W PoE is standardized and available on the market. the standards body dragged their feet for a couple decades, vendors implemented their own proprietary high-power PoE injectors and devices, and a lot of the momentum behind PoE died out due to incompatibility hell. imagine every power outlet in your house was networked, could support gigabit data transfer, and the whole thing was so safe you could jam a fork into the outlet whenever the whim struck you -- that was the original dream.
- kalleboo 7y agoI mean, if you want to stick to the 1.5 MB/s transfer rates of USB 1, more power to you. Analog audio technology was basically perfected 40 years ago with the Walkman. You couldn't develop a significantly better connector today, even the size was optimal for small portable devices. Data transfer technology OTOH is still improving by leaps and bounds, and the old ports are too big for modern portable devices like tablets and phones.
- bdamm 7y ago60Hz Electric Grid: 122 years in service. NEMA 1-15: 115 years in service. IPv4: 41 years in service. IPv6: 24 years in service. Seatbelts: 53 years in service. Some things are better not replaced every 8 years.
- spancap 7y agoI agree with your general sentiment but NEMA 1-15 must go (it kills a few people each year) and so must IPv4 (it spawned NAT which destroyed the Internet).
- jolmg 7y agoI super agree with everything, with the probable exception of Seatbelts. Is that even a standard with a concern for compatibility? I'm not sure if I can plug the belt of one car to the seat of another. Would be cool, I guess. If my seatbelt ever breaks, I guess that would mean I can obtain a "standard" seatbelt without worrying about compatibility.
- bluGill 7y agoThere are "heavy" people who carry a seat belt extender because most cars don't have a long enough seat belt without it. So yes there is a compatibility concern. Though there isn't a standard. Different manufactures use different connectors, not to mention air planes.
- bdamm 7y agoThere's a standard in that cars must have them, and they must have certain properties in terms of abrasion, strength, surface area etc.
- chrisseaton 7y agoUSB-C is a revelation - power, display, storage, all through one cable.
- rkagerer 7y agoBah, the big innovation is the reversible connector. Not sure why that took so long.
- TylerE 7y agoExactly. The old USB connector is just horrible... not only is it non-reversible, but it doesn’t “feel” good. I swear my average number of attempts to plug one in is >2, because even if you get the right orientation, if the alignment isn’t perfect it feels like it’s wrong.
- chrisseaton 7y agoIf you look back through old stack overflow questions about the reversibility you’ll find people saying it can’t be done any other way, giving all sorts of demonstrably false arguments about it being impossible to arrange wires like that!
- mhh__ 7y agoI haven't seen these arguments, but not passively reversible perhaps? (Isn't there logic in the cable or something like that?)
- chrisseaton 7y agoJust picture a USB-A connector. You know the metal plates on the tongue? Put metal plates on the underside as well. Connect each plate on one side, to the plate on the other side, but at the reverse end of the tongue. There you go - passive reversible.
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- rkagerer 7y agoMy desktop is plenty powerful, but doesn't have USB 3. Nice to know I can skip it and just get USB 4 on my next mobo.
- Shorel 7y agoMy Logitech wireless headphones don't work well with USB 3.x, they only output stereo sound. It is required to use an USB 2.0 port to get surround sound. USB 3.x is also unreliable to no end. My external disks, all using USB 3, only worked with the very fast speed for a week or so. Then the cable dies and it is basically just as fast as USB 2. So, 8 years of unreliability. What a terrible record.