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They're not the "problems" with C++, they're what make C++ great. It's like C is slowly realizing C++ features are actually useful, but doing so as slowly as mo

• loeg 7y ago
  > [Classes, templates, and exceptions are] not the "problems" with C++, they're what make C++ great. We're going to have to agree to disagree on that one. > It's like C is slowly realizing C++ features are actually useful, but doing so as slowly as molasses, while still trying to pretend like this isn't the case... I think it makes sense to adopt C++ features that do some combination of (1) providing a useful feature, (2) aiding C++ compatibility, and (3) not majorly increasing the conceptual size of the C language. Just like it makes sense for C++ to adopt C99-compatibility (structure literals has taken y'all like 20+ years to adopt). Templates, classes, and exceptions are a huge huge addition to the complexity of the language. If C programmers wanted them, with all of the pitfalls of manual memory management and C-style lifetime safety, they'd just use C++. Obviously, they don't. Personally, if I had to choose a language other than C I'd pick something like Zig, Rust, or Go over C++.
  • de_watcher 7y ago
    C with templates (not classes), STL algorithms/ranges and small things like nullptr, auto, lambdas, stronger basic types, etc is actually a powerful configuration.
    • loeg 7y ago
      Everyone who likes C++ will tell you which parts they like and how powerful they are :-).