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I wouldn't mind the lower power that much, but camera is one of my main use cases for phone. Pixel is just so damn good at taking pictures. The cheap phones do

I wouldn't mind the lower power that much, but camera is one of my main use cases for phone. Pixel is just so damn good at taking pictures. The cheap phones do have considerably worse cameras, no way around that.

_fzslm 7y ago
The Pixel 3a is fantastic for that reason.
on_and_off 7y ago
At some point cameras are going to be commoditized as well though, partly thanks to all the investment in computerized photography. I bought a mid range phone for my parents, they find its camera amazing. It does not hold a candle to a pixel, but it is adequate. For users that don't feel the need for the best in class phone camera, it is already enough. I wonder what will be the distinguishing factor in 5 years.
shpx 7y ago
The Pixel 1 XL has a good camera and you can buy a used one for under $200.
- nineteen999 7y ago
  Not to mention they are still getting updates, I'm installing Android 10 now.
  - MattSayar 7y ago
    Does it still get regular security updates as well? I read they stop those after a couple years as well.
    - nineteen999 7y ago
      Mine got all the regular Android 9 security updates up until I installed Android 10, which I suppose is not bad for a phone that was released 3 years ago. I'll probably replace it soon anyway since the battery life is starting to slip away. That's probably the worst aspect of the phone, since I bought it in Feb 2018.
    - shpx 7y ago
      > Pixel phones get Android version updates for at least 3 years from when the device first became available on the Google Store. > Pixel 1/Pixel 1 XL: No guaranteed Android version updates after October 2018, no guaranteed security updates after October 2019. https://support.google.com/pixelphone/answer/4457705 https://support.google.com/pixelphone/answer/4457705 but I've been running Android 10 for a couple months now, since the beta. Pixels (all of them) are the only phones that could be enrolled in the beta. In general, they get new features first, for example the offline voice recognition in Gboard https://techcrunch.com/2019/03/12/googles-new-voice-recognition-system-works-instantly-and-offline-if-you-have-a-pixel/ https://techcrunch.com/2019/03/12/googles-new-voice-recognit... The new Pixel 3a XL has only slightly better Geekbench scores than the Pixel 1 XL (347 vs 307 respectively), so at least there shouldn't be any performance reasons to not support this phone for another 3 years. So, officially, not anymore. Unofficially, I'd baselessly speculate for another year? But you're right, I take back my recommendation. Security updates must be guaranteed.

_fzslm 7y ago

The Pixel 3a is fantastic for that reason.

on_and_off 7y ago

At some point cameras are going to be commoditized as well though, partly thanks to all the investment in computerized photography. I bought a mid range phone for my parents, they find its camera amazing. It does not hold a candle to a pixel, but it is adequate. For users that don't feel the need for the best in class phone camera, it is already enough. I wonder what will be the distinguishing factor in 5 years.

shpx 7y ago

The Pixel 1 XL has a good camera and you can buy a used one for under $200.

nineteen999 7y ago
Not to mention they are still getting updates, I'm installing Android 10 now.
- MattSayar 7y ago
  Does it still get regular security updates as well? I read they stop those after a couple years as well.
  - nineteen999 7y ago
    Mine got all the regular Android 9 security updates up until I installed Android 10, which I suppose is not bad for a phone that was released 3 years ago. I'll probably replace it soon anyway since the battery life is starting to slip away. That's probably the worst aspect of the phone, since I bought it in Feb 2018.
  - shpx 7y ago
    > Pixel phones get Android version updates for at least 3 years from when the device first became available on the Google Store. > Pixel 1/Pixel 1 XL: No guaranteed Android version updates after October 2018, no guaranteed security updates after October 2019. https://support.google.com/pixelphone/answer/4457705 https://support.google.com/pixelphone/answer/4457705 but I've been running Android 10 for a couple months now, since the beta. Pixels (all of them) are the only phones that could be enrolled in the beta. In general, they get new features first, for example the offline voice recognition in Gboard https://techcrunch.com/2019/03/12/googles-new-voice-recognition-system-works-instantly-and-offline-if-you-have-a-pixel/ https://techcrunch.com/2019/03/12/googles-new-voice-recognit... The new Pixel 3a XL has only slightly better Geekbench scores than the Pixel 1 XL (347 vs 307 respectively), so at least there shouldn't be any performance reasons to not support this phone for another 3 years. So, officially, not anymore. Unofficially, I'd baselessly speculate for another year? But you're right, I take back my recommendation. Security updates must be guaranteed.